.
Part I of Spectator's anti-Paxton rant here.* Part I links yer to Part II.
*HEH!
Excellent articles Jim. And this is, no exaggeration, a much better site when in "Think Tank" mode, having people take opposing sides of a question. You took the wrong side of this in a very skilled way.
:- )
... no, seriously, it's blinkin' seldom we reply to a post in a "Roundtable" tit-for-tat way. Only when the argument on the other side is very persuasive.
.
Q. For every 1 Randy Johnson, there are dozens of Scott Kazmirs.
A. I'll see you and raise. For every 1 Randy Johnson, there are 17,000 other players (the number of MLB players in history).
Question on Paxton is whether he can be Brett Anderson, or maybe even David Price or Chris Sale, or at the top end Clayton Kershaw. Dr. D isn't comparing Paxton to legends like Unit and Koufax, though that is the extreme end of Paxton's template.
Randy Johnson is, um, rare, but there are a good number of Derek Hollands and David Prices. In fact virtually every left hand pitcher sporting a 92+ fastball, with enough control to stay in the rotation, is an impact TOR.
Kazmir is a buzzword for the worst-case scenario on a hyped power lefty, but ... he racked up 3.7, 3.8, and 5.1 WAR in the three seasons before his fastball tailed off. If that's the worst you can do as a hyped LHP? Three seasons of All-Star level contribution?, that's not shabby. Brad Miller's downside is a lot lower than 3.7 WAR.
.
Q. Has Paxton solved the issues that led to a mediocre AAA season?
A. It was a mediocre AAA season, yes. And he has NOT solved the issues, no. (Once he hit Safeco, he started making obvious progress on them.)
Dr. D's position is that he doesn't need to solve those issues before joining the Mariners, any more than Mulder and Gonzalez did with the A's, any more than Kershaw did with the Dodgers, etc.
But. I gotta sign off on this accurate observation by Spec. Yes Paxton was fighting himself. And still is.
.
Q. Is Paxton similar to Brandon Maurer, who also has very impressive stuff?
A. Maurer's RHP fastball is 92.9 MPH, which is pretty quick. He's got three interesting pitches to go with it.
Paxton's LHP fastball is 94.7 MPH, the very fastest in the American League, way ahead of Derek Holland at 93.6. Chris Sale is at 93.1.
And it cuts and sinks. And it's overhand. And yada yada yada. Maurer has plus stuff, but K-Pax is on Taijuan's level. It's three standard deviations past Maurer.
.
Q. Could Paxton gain from a year in AAA?
A. He certainly could.
Having slo-mo'ed 4 starts to a fare-thee-well :- ) we realize that he's got very little to improve in terms of mechanics. It's just repetitions. That's all. Pitchers just need to practice, and practice, and practice, and then their aim gets better. Paxton could do that in AAA.
.
Q. Could Danny Hultzen be a better choice for 2014?
A. He certainly could.
I saw Hultzen in person, and it turned around my evaluation of him... if his labrum isn't torn (guessing a 50% chance that it is) then he is only inches away from being a totally finished product.
Hultzen is much, much closer to his peak than Taijuan or Paxton are. Problem is, his talent is probably vastly lower than theirs. Maybe that means you want to use Hultzen first; that was Zduriencik's reasoning with Erasmo.
.
Q. Is this Dr. D's position, as Spec asked?
Anyway, if I understand Doc's argument, it would be this (please correct if I'm framing it wrong):
- Folks are concerned about Paxton because he had lapses of control in the minors.
- Minor league hitters are more willing to "go deep in the count" against power pitchers.
- Minor league umpires aren't as good.
- Such pitchers will do better in the majors.
- Leaving such pitchers in the minors will not help them get better.
- Therefore, Paxton should be in the majors, and he will not disappoint most of the time.
- See more at: http://seattlesportsinsider.com/article/mild-dissent-james-paxton-0#stha...
.
A. No, it really isn't my position, so thanks for asking for clarification.
My position is stated in this article. The above position would be farfetched and inaccurate.
The germ of similarity is this: I've observed some wild power pitchers, against whom lower-level hitters couldn't make contact, benefit from the conditions at higher levels. Kerry Wood and Tim Lincecum were examples.
You want to be aware of this syndrome, in explaining the odd Wood, Lincecum, or Paxton :- ) but arguing that it WILL happen, that would be crazy.
.
Q. Does Cole vs Bauer go into Spec's corner?
A. Big time. One of his best calls.
I had both in the top 10, of course, but would have preferred Bauer. Cole looked very Morrow-ish to me at UCLA, but as we say we'd have drafted him high.
Hey, Spectator ain't writing on this blog for no reason. He's here because he's one of the best baseball writers on the internet. I'd rather read his stuff than that of most authors on the national sites. Fortunately for us, here he is, educating us all on Mariners bushers.
.