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with that kind of arsenal *might* put him closer to Prime Cliff Lee than Prime Jamie Moyer, no? Moyer was indeed amazing with his control and that changeup--one of the best in the history of the game--but he could never take control of a game like Prime Cliff Lee. Moyer's was the most successful high-wire act in the history of the game outside of knuckleballers, but Lee's dominance almost felt inevitable during his prime. For a guy throwing 92+ with pinpoint command AND a formerly-80-grade-changeup AND a pair of legitimate breaking pitches that he can throw where he wants to? Yeah...that's a special piece. It's not Paxton or Felix, but it's probably just a tier down from the latter in terms of upside.