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What I meant is that Moyer didn't succeed 'because' of his velocity, but every mph of his velocity (even at the lower end) clearly did matter.
Therefore I find it highly questionable when anyone tries to tell me that the difference between 87mph and 83mph is irrelevant. I've given examples of guys that have succeeded recently at 87mph. This list of guys that have succeded recently at 83mph is ONE: Jamie Moyer. And when his velocity went below 82mph he was done as a TOR starter.