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...I think it's going to take an entire year of suckage before they give up on him. At least. He is just too big a part of this organization's PR campaign to be left out unless all of his efforts to stay active fall flat for a long time. And I'm thinking Ichiro will retire the isntant he feels his ability starting to slip. He strikes me as too big a perfectionist to want to hang on to build up counting stats.