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...then he would move up to #5 on my list...and #2 (ahead of Bedard and Lee, yes) the instant he demonstrates he can throw a secondary pitch consistently and at least occasionally for strikes. I'm VERY high on Pineda, health permitting.
Robles I'm not certain on...but he's a better fit for Safeco and has better command of secondary pitches right now. He needs to demonstrate consistency before he gets his call-up though.
I think Pineda will be in Seattle as a set-up man in 2011 and as a start either late 2011 or 2012. And I think Robles' ETA is a bit longer.