Thornton and Putz were coming up at the same time, if I recall, and both were always just tantalizing (and frustrating) until -- boom! -- all of the sudden they're all stars. You're right that it didn't happen for Thornton until the Ms gave up. With Putz, if I recall, it was Eddie Guradado teaching him the right way to throw the splitter, more than anything the Ms coaching staff did. Cleto could be the same way -- long-term project that pays off unexpectedly, or just endlessly frustrates.
Speaking of not giving up, here's a guy you might find interesting. What do you make of this career arc:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/scott-patterson.shtml
To which add this winter:
11 G, 14.1 IP, 13 H, 4 ER, 2 HR, 2 BB, 14 K, 2 SV
A very interesting analysis here, complete with super slo-mo video:
http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-pat...
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