I would hate to see SSI falter...this is by far the best Mariner blog on the web, IMHO. And I never accused you of not welcoming dissenting opinions...if you didn't, I wouldn't be here. I just think that, on occasion, it might calm me down a tad if I was more cheritable in my assumptions about your thoughts and you were more cheritable in your assumptions about mine. Yes...I am a flawed person and I sometimes get too emotional in support of my own position...but when that happens, and the next response is "wow, you're a dick!" and you then tell me to knock it off without saying another word to the other guy involved...that's not going to back me away from being defensive. if I overstep and get too emotional...tell me so without calling me all kinds of unfair names and getting overly sarcastic...99 times out of 100, the emotion will stop there.