No need to sneer. We presume that you will find ideas that others didn't, Malcontent -- that's why you're posting, isn't it?
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We've talked about DER all winter. Safeco wipes out balls in play; we've known that since about July 1999.
The question here is whether Luke French, specifically, has any business pitching like Curt Schilling, whatever park he plays in. Same with Fister, Snell, or the other specific pitchers listed.
It's fine to talk about Safeco's premium on FB's, which probably does exist, but you wouldn't ask Jamie Moyer to throw 70% fastballs because the park helps fastballs a little.
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I think there are a few things being overlooked here. The Mariners faced the 4th fewest batters; their SO% was still second to last (though 16% SO rate makes them a lot better than the Indians at 15.5% and pretty close to the Orioles at 16.1%)
Chiding us for "overlooking" volume of batters faced when we used a rate stat?
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but their 7.4% BB rate was third best in the majors (despite giving 240+ innings to guys with rates above 10%)
You're overlooking the fact that we weren't discussing the *quality* of their pitching results. We're discussing the how well the pitch selection matched the repertoires of the pitchers.
Sure, the M's had the low BB's to go with the low K's. That's what made them finesse pitchers, as opposed to terrible pitchers.
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I think this is another facet of Zduriencik playing to his park. I find it funny that there was just a discussion here about how the blogosphere doesn't understand that certain pitchers run different BABiP numbers, but nobody checked the Mariners' Pitching BABiP?
You're going to have factoids to contribute. No need to be shocked about it. :- )
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