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When the minors season ends, I hope a few of these guys can get some exposure to the Dave Stewarts, Dave Duncans, and others before they go off to work on stuff for the off-season. Painter is from that "school" - maybe the Ms need to let him arrange something on pitching psychology. Orel Hershiser is another one that might be able to get some connection and turn on some lights. We saw it work with the Big Unit - and maybe he's another one to pass it on, also. Pitching goes on between the ears - isn't that exactly the pattern recognition / pattern dispersal intelligence that we've been talking about? "Hitting is timing; Pitching is disrupting that timing." (loose quote) - Warren Spahn. Ya, 363 wins has some cred.