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and that you genuinely come across as a good dude, but please point out to me where all the mud slinging came from my end? I asked him what news channel he watches/trusts the most, he responded with Fox and described it in a way that I disagree with. So I told him which objections I had with his viewpoint. In my eyes I didn't say anything that would set off an even-keeled person that is interested in a real debate. I didn't insult his intelligence or call him names and I didn't try to belittle him in front of everyone. He did both.
Please, if you're going to mediate, at least do it while facing the guy who flung the most mud.
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I love good debate. I love learning. I love listening. I'm very open to all of these things. That's why I come to this site, in the hope that I might learn something. But when someone says or thinks something that is factually incorrect or logically incoherent, it should be pointed out, and both parties should be allowed to defend their position. If I say something that is incorrect or incoherent, I EXPECT to be called on it. I should be called on it. This is where I think I diverge from the population of this site. The people on here don't like to ruffle feathers (SABRmatt excluded). Everything needs to be polite and light-hearted. I just fundamentally disagree. I think people should be challenged on their opinions and confronted on what they say/write. Sometimes this comes across as instigating or just trying to create a "flame war". People need to grow a thicker skin.
I'm not saying that there should be mud slinging. Name calling and belittling have no place in civilized debate. I truly recognize this. Again, I welcome anyone to go back and read what I wrote. You tell me what makes what I wrote any more charged or personally attacking than any healthy debate. I think what caused all of the backlash was his becoming personally offended and lashing out at me, because I can't see what was so egregious in my post.