that Morales lost 20lbs, might lose a little power but its got to be good for the ankle. I can't believe we actually received a quality bat for Jason Vargas. I liked Vargas but after all of the trades for M's veterans over the years, returning pennies on the dollar I expected the same. I just have to keep reminding myself that the M's were 5th in the AL last year in runs scored away from home. More than Texas, Toronto and Detroit. Unfortunately LAA was first. The M's aren't that far away offensively, they just aren't. One more good outfield bat and I will be quite comfortable going to war with the youngsters.
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=== Topics Du Jour ===
Nick Swisher, Alex Gordon, Billy Butler and Kendrys Morales are all cut from about the same cloth offensively.
Fill up a batting order with their ilk, and you're looking at 6.0 runs per game. If you stipulated, before the fact, that Morales would be feeling good in 2013 and playing every day in, Dr. D would take Butler first, Gordon last, the other two in the middle.
Kendrys takes a different road to Rome than the ones traveled by the other three. The other guys walk 70, 80, maybe 90 times per season, and lack dangerous home run power; Morales knew he wasn't going to walk his way off the island. So for hitters really comparable to Morales you've got to look at players with more power.
But, again: if you grant before-the-fact that Morales will play 140+ games, Dr. D wouldn't spit for the difference between Morales and the three batters that the Warts Spiders have been stalking. That's a big IF.
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=== Blasts From the Past ===
Truth be told, a couple of players from 100 years ago are the ones who come to mind. Remember Kent Hrbek, anybody? The swing, the kludgy body, the knack for an off-field RBI when needed, all that stuff ... the Big Hrbowski had a better eye and was a little bit better player.
Tino Martinez was quite similar to Morales as far as the compact swing, the stiff mechanical running, and the slash line.
As compared to Raul Ibanez, Kendrys Morales shares a knack for getting on top of the ball and a basically 290/340/500ish slash line. Kendrys has more talent in his love handles than Rauuul ever though of having, but unfortunately doesn't have 2% of Rauuul's desire. Nor Raul's durability, earned in the weight room.
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=== Weighted Means Approach ===
Throwing aside stylistic concerns ... if you search for batters in the period 2010-12 who echo'ed Morales' career slash line, you get players like
- Nelson Cruz
- Mike Napoli
- Jay Bruce (a bit more of a pitch stalker, tho)
- Adam Jones
There you go. If you want a quick feel for the value provided by Kendrys Morales, SSI nominates Nelson Cruz, if Cruz hit from the left* side.
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=== Counting Your Chickens, Dept. ===
It's a funny thing, though: compared to all of the above players, Morales has a more extreme LO scenario and a more extreme HI scenario.
The LO is provided courtesy of Morales' ankle injury, weight, and work ethic - hopefully all minimized by his contract drive. (For those who just joined us, K-Mo is a free agent next eyar and is represented by Scott Boras; Morales is precisely the kind of stock investment that will have visions of $80M paydays dancing in Boras' head. Morales will be in Seattle for one (1) season, give or take a trade deadline.)
The HI is provided courtesy of the fact that Morales, when last healthy, was in fact an MVP candidate.
For what the Mariners are doing right now, for the short term, you can certainly argue that a $4M Kendrys Morales is the preferred option. To Butler, Swisher, and Gordon. Obviously to Zduriencik, [K-Mo plus draft pick] is preferred to Nick Swisher.
In other words, if you were thinking Swisher, you're covered. For 2013. Ditto the Royals' guys, and whattayer know we didn't have to cough up a future 17-game winner to git r done.
Kendrys Morales isn't a grate in the sidewalk who blows Dr. D's skirt up; nix the "M's get their slugger" hype. The 35-homer, 120-RBI, .550 SLG scenario has what -- a 25% chance of occurring?
But the great thing is that he's a bonus. Or should be. He should be gravy on top of whatever else the M's do; he should be the third player in this winter. He's a rental and they just SAVED money on him.
In the M's dream winter, they just added a short-term Gordon or Swisher comp and now they can get started.
Naaaahhhhhhh....
NEXT
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Comments
He could really help our season from an offensive standpoint (as one of our adds this year, not the only one I'm still hoping). And if Morales hits his HI numbers, then you offer him arb, let him go get that large contract from somebody who will eat the risk of many years on Kendry's busted up body, and take your draftpick.
Hint, hint: it would make up for the draftpick we LOSE THIS YEAR for signing Swisher. Hint.
Though you know we're really getting Cody Ross, right?
~G
Let's not discount Vargas, thank you.
Any 200-inning, league average OPS+ guy with a 1.25 WHIP has considerable value. Which, I think, is what we may have in Beavan. Basically, Vargas didn't do what Beavan did this year (at 23) until he was 27.
But, chuckers we have and boppers we haven't. Well, now we do.
Morales is a Napoli/Swisher type.....with a slightly different way of getting there.
I like this much, Doc. I'm quite leary of our next move, however. If we trade away a Hultzen and Franklin (or something like that) for an Ethier, I will be disappointed.
Surprisingly, as much as I like him, I'm growing on the idea of using Seager as our trade chit...if we're swapping for an OF with years left on a contract. On the other hand, I think I might just move Romero to LF and say, "See the ball, hit the ball, kid!"
I'm not trading Seager for Ethier, however. Not that contract....and Seager might approach Ethier with the bat, anyway. Say, within 10 OPS+ pts.
The next move we make (if it is for a bat) will be indicative of how much we value Franklin/Romero/Miller (lots, I hope) and what we think is the real potential of Smoak.
moe
As the primary add, I'd have been BITTERLY disappointed to get Ross...but as the second piece behind Morales, me likey just fine kthx. Ross is nothing special, but we just need a dependable 20+ HR and a competent fielder out there...Ross is both of those things and you don't have to commit to him uber-long-term and freeze out all of our prospects (Catricala, Carp, Ackley to OF/Seager to 2B, Franklin in at 3B, e.g.). Plus...Ross is RH which we need to offset Saunders/Carp in the outfield.
The M's are now committed for $75M spent on their budget and that includes the Contingency Fund. The only possible place to save anymore money this year would be to trade Gutierrez who is out of options and his $7M salary. If they pick up another OF bat, then either Carp or Wells must be traded and they are both out of options. They also need another SP and back up C to fill the roster. One of Kelley or Kinney can be traded as well as numerous other RH RP's as well as maybe one LH RP. That's pretty much what they could trade without hurting themselves. And the OF bat is still the problem.
What about Mo Vaughn? Heavy guy, mediocre work ethic, lefty, huge power. He certainly had more patience, but who knows where Morales would be without losing a year and a half of his prime to a broken leg?
One other thing to consider. They are going to need three more spots on the 40-man roster if they pick up another player for the OF, SP, and back up C. They are going to need to make a trade or two to get any value from those three players.
The thing about Vargas is that he continues to get better at pitching in true crafty left hander fashion. In 2011-2012 his strikeout/9 jumped to good pitcher status 5.9-5.8 respectively. His improvement in 2012 is that he pitched more innings, and his strikeout/walk ratio jumped from 2.22 (2011) to 2.56 (2012). 2011-2012 Vargas was every bit of vintage Moyer during his best years. The only thing Vargas is missing that would have made him more of a fan favorite, is that malevolent Moyer smile when another sucker swung and missed his ridiculous changeup for strike three. Vargas' flat 'tude made it appear that he was having just another day at the office, rather than reveling in the defeat and humiliation of his larger and more macho enemies. Maybe Vargas will be more arrogant in his 30's and 40's when people are still swinging at his slop. Erasmo seems comparable to Vargas from the right hand side. I think that Beaven still needs to learn the changeup, or some other excellent out-pitch. his 3.9 lifetime SO/9 is probably why he has a 4.37 lifetime ERA.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/9/10/3305489/prospect-retrospective-...
Take a gander at John Sickel's career profile for Brad Radke. Radke is a finesse righthander who never walks anyone, just like Beaven. Radke had a Beavenish 3.7 strikeouts per nine inning pitch during his rookie year, and then he settled in for 5.6 strikeouts per nine innings after that. Sickels said that Radke's out pitch was an outstanding changeup.
Note that even with a good changeup and ridiculous command, Radke still had a 4.22 lifetime ERA. I think that the reason that Doc kept talking about trading Vargas is the worry that he is comparable to Brad Radke, but this particular type of pitcher flourished under old Safeco, and may be exposed in more hitter friendly parks. Beaven still needs to sharpen his weapons to turn into Brad Radke. I sure hope he does, but we already have Iwakuma/Erasmo in the crafty finesse right hander with awesome out pitch mold, and Hultzen, another fastball/changeup lefty, so it would be good to get some pitchers in there with some different weapons.
It has been suggested that Baltimore needs a 1B.....and they could use another IF, I think.
What would it take to get Markakis do you think?
I think it was Gordon said that Angelos has a man-love for Markakis and would never allow him to be traded.
Morales won't play 1b every day, meaning that either Smoak or Carp (or both) will make the roster, which I view as a very good thing. I very much want Carp to be healthy and beat out Bay and/or Wells for a roster spot.
Morales as a primary DH pretty much forces them to use Jaso and Montero at catcher, and not necessarily bring in some stiff "glove guy," there, which I also view as a very good thing. The lineup will be much better if one of those guys is at C every day.
I have a new post up about Franklin Gutierrez on a rampage in winter ball, which brightens the outfield outlook considerably. I hope it will make them less interested in Bourn, who does not thrill me for the cost.
Vargas gone means more Erasmo, let's hope, and maybe an earlier debut for Paxton.
In other words, Morales/Vargas may not only be a good move in itself, but may help prevent other not-as-good moves.
Will check it out. I've had such a long belief that Carp would produce for us....and then a firm belief that Wedge was going to jettison him, that I haven't thought about him at all this winter.
Guti has value...especially against LHP. Would love to see him in a platoon role. Even in '09, his breakout year, he was only .262-.309-.372 vR. In '10, when he was still healthy, he was .244-.297-.356. Last year, when he completely mashed lefties (in limited AB's : .400-.437-.723) he was only .153-.209-.188 vR. He just doesn't hit righties....and I think we've seen that his terrific CF defensive numbers were somewhat Safeco-CF inflated, although he remains a nice glove.
Over his career, though, he and Brendan Ryan have nearly identical vR numbers: .241-.290-.345 for Guti vs .236-.296-.332 for our light-hitting SS. Essentially then, we have two defensive specialist SS bats in the game vR. This is the AL, that won't do!!!!
BTW, Saunders has almost no platoon split, and he hit lefties BETTER than righties last year.
Hey, I could live with a Bourn signing, IF he and Guti (or Wells) platooned.....that would be one tremendous CF. Right now, with no further acquisitions, I tend to think that we keep Thames up (if Carp goes), because his split is as a vR mini-bonker. Carp has little career split difference, BTW.
To tell you the truth, I think I would be fine with Saunders, Guti/Thames, (or Wells/Thames) plus Carp. I don't think that will happen. One of the reasons that I would have loved a Swisher (or a Markakis) is that they hit pitchers of all ilk. Then you platoon Guti with Thames and add Saunders and you have 3 OF's (counting the platoon as one guy) who can hit.
Heck, I would be entirely tempted to use Franklin in LF against RHP. Really. I keep thinking about Pete Rose, as I've said before. He played, in his career, 2B-3B-LF-RF AND 1B.....all full-time for various seasons. He handled them all decently. Play him there100 games this year AND use him at 2B/3B/SS.
If Franklin can hit righties (and indications are that he can), then get him on the field, pronto. Holy snot, Frank Howard and Willie Stargell both played in the OF. Are you telling me that an athlete of Nick Franklin's abilty can't chase flies more than adequately?
How about Franklin/Wells, Guti/Thames and Saunders. Franklin goes McLemore on us and is our BU 2nd basemen. 3B, too...if we're not using Liddi. Or platoon Franklin/Liddi at 3B and play Seager in LF. Let's us our guys to the best of their skills, a flexible lineup does just that.
But getting the greatest value out of Guti means making him your 4th OF and playing him against every LHP we see. Or Wells, if Guti goes.
Smoak doesn't really hit anybody. I want to believe that his Sept. showing last year means something, but then I remember that he hit .147 and .134 and .196 in the 3 previous months. I'm highly skeptical.
moe