More realistically: supposing that Brandon Morrow got demoted? Supposing he lost his closer's job? ... he said that AFTER PUTZ WAS TRADED the bullpen started looking good to him...
:- )
We were watching the Mavericks blow out the Suns this week, and Mark Jackson complained that he didn't like what he was seeing from the Suns' body language. They weren't frustrated, they weren't arguing with the refs, they weren't shoving the Mavericks in the paint, stuff like that. They were accepting the situation.
The Mariners' body language, the first two games, has been that of winners. Late in the game today, Jose Lopez ran down a high pop on the RF foul line, calling Wlad off, sort of .... then the two banged mitts with frowns on their faces.
Another example: Junior in the first, two on, 0 out, infield pop up. The camera caught him with a loud, angry pejorative as he stomped back to the dugout.
Erik Bedard and Kenji Johjima looked like teammates, friendly teammates, during innings and between them. Their enemies were in the other uniforms.
Those examples aren't proofs. They're just illustrations. If you're watching the games, you're seeing a completely revised attitude. Wok and Capt Jack have done a TRULY MASTERFUL job of re-making this club's chemistry.
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But there is no such thing as a ballclub that has winning chemistry, if it leads for 2:45 and then loses in the last ten minutes.
It's one loss -- but the fact is, that as we speak, the Mariners have an unstable bullpen. Yes, it may stabilize later. Yes, it's too early to panic. But it's also true that going into tomorrow's game, the club doesn't know whether those first 2:45 of crisp, hustling play will be rewarded in the 9th.
Granted, a couple of solid Morrow performances will allow everyone to sigh in relief, especially me. :- )
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It would be a tremendous silver lining out of Tuesday's loss, if Brandon Morrow got to thinking about the fact that he is a born starting pitcher. He has a starter's motion, and a starter's rhythm.
He needs to get in a rocking chair, find his release point, and cruise once he finds it. He does NOT need to enter ballgames in very staccato rhythm, throw 15 pitches as hard as he can, and then take two-three more days off.
Could be, probably will be, that Morrow gets it corrected soon. But for this old man, that one game looked disquietingly like a Steve Blass or Rick Ankiel phantom zone .... ::shudder:: doing fine, then out of thin air, nowhere NEAR the plate, ever, and for absolutely no reason.
Golfers know this as "the yips" -- the subconscious mind and conscious mind can't get onto the same page, and a type of "sports amnesia" occurs. For ONE game, it looked to me like that's what occurred with Morrow.
Mark Wohler, Chuck Knoblauch, Steve Sax, Mackey Sasser, John Olerud and others had similar subconscious-mind blocks. We're not jinxing Morrow; everybody in the dugout is aware of the potential for Steve Blass disease -- for anybody. They'll all let out a sigh of relief on the 90% chance that Morrow is okay his next time out.
*Taro rebuts strongly in the comments below. Good on yer, champ.
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The Mariners know more than I do, but I strongly suspect that Brandon Morrow could manage his blood sugar in the rotation, IFF he thought that starting would be easier and more successful than closing. I also suspect that Morrow is going to find out that life is not at all easy -- for him -- as a closer.
Personally, I believe that golfers develop the yips much more easily on shots that aren't natural for them (putting, chipping, pitching, whatever). I don't think Morrow would be nearly as likely to battle himself, if he were cruising along for 60-80-100 pitches in a starting role.
And we all *more than* suspect that the closing job isn't going to be AVAILABLE to him for long, if he pulls a few more of these. :- ) The thought of a Morrow demotion cheers me up. For the same reasons it would cheer me up if Phillippe Aumont walked 7 men a game in relief and quickly swapped back to the rotation.
I don't want Morrow and Aumont to fail. I want the "60 leveraged innings are better than 180" concept to fail.
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If Morrow's going to have control issues -- and as it stands right now, that's what you have to assume -- it would be MUCH less painful for him to have them in the rotation. You CAN survive bouts of wildness as a starter. But as we just saw, the ballclub CANNOT afford for its closer to throw ten balls in a row. It guts the entire winning atmosphere.
You have a wild game as a starter, hey, an 18-10 record is fine. You have a wild inning as a SP, give up 3 runs, you have time to win the game. You can't have your closer battling himself, end of story.
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If Morrow's going to have control issues, he also has a much better chance of solving them in 180 innings per season than in 60.
So, maybe Brandon will get to thinking about the fact that he has a starter's rhythm. If so, the loss is well worth it.
If not, Tuesday's game was a real shot to the solar plexus. That's not going to be Brandon Morrow's last wild inning of the year.
Cheers,
Dr D
Comments
Don't know if I'm sold on this one. Last year Morrow threw more strikes in the bullpen than as a starter. 35.4 Ball% as a reliever, 39.8 Ball% as a starter.
I think the ST injury slowed him back a little. It wouldn't be a bad idea to stick Batista in at closer until Morrow pulls himself together.
I wouldn't exactly be crushed if hes sent back to the rotation either. I don't think he'll last very long, but he has the potential to have a bigger impact.
Good stuff Taro.
That is one good piece of evidence that indicates that Morrow could find his control as easily, or more easily, in the pen. To reinforce it a bit, Morrow's K/BB was 47/15 in relief last year, vs. 28/19 as a starter. So there is an indicator away from my position on it, definitely.
Your point is well taken amigo: probably Morrow HAS thrown more strikes in the 'pen than I've given him credit for. So let me back off of the post above -- by one good stride's length.
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Qualifiers:
Morrow's 5 starts last season did not produce the starts I expect from Brandon Morrow going forward. His starts were:
Great
Solid
Bad
Okay
Bad
If that's what I thought Brandon Morrow was going to do as a starter -- 6 great starts, 12 okay ones, and 12 bad ones -- I wouldn't be arguing for him as SP at all.
So my basic response on the SP strike % is that they catch a snapshot of "Brandon Morrow, SP" at his worst. If it weren't a given that Morrow were going to do better than that as an SP, once he acclimated, then this conversation would be moot. :- )
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As far as Morrow throwing strikes in the pen, last year's 47/15 is certainly encouraging. But:
1) How volatile are those appearances?
2) How are they going to be affected by the pressure of closing? Tuesday they were affected a whale of a lot. He came in throwing strikes, and then the least little wobble on the high wire, with no net, and he fell off.
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I'm not confident that Morrow's going to be able to avoid meltdowns in the closer's role. BUT your point is well taken: probably he has thrown more strikes in the 'pen than I've given him credit for.
Ya, Morrow last year was a hard guy to figure out. After his start against the Yankees I thought we had hit the jackpot and landed a TOR starter...then he had a couple starts mixed in there where he just had no shot at finding the plate.
I'm wondering whether the diabetes is to blame for his inconsistencies? Hes been on record that he feels he can manage it better in the bullpen, and I think you give him 2-3 more outings to stretch out and he goes back to throwing strikes like last year.
You can see Morrow's '08 game log here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8002/gamelog;_ylt=AgNOOdcn54iJpjsQ65...
He was pretty much dominant in the pen all year after starting slow in April (tuned up in the minors the first couple of weeks). Maybe a couple shaky outings in July but nothing like last night.
In comparison you take a look at his starts, and really his command was never the same after the Yankee game. He was a LOT more consistent in the bullpen last year.
With all the talk of mental makeup, I have been pondering what about starting versus relieving versus closing changes. The point here is that while the goal, (throw strikes, get outs), is the same in all cases, the jobs are actually vastly different in a number of respects.
There are setup guys who fold as closers. There are some former starters who thrive as closers - and others who implode.
My own opinion is that "comfort" in the role is paramount to everything else. Of course, you have to have a minimum amount of ability. No matter how comfortable Regis might be on the mound, he's not likely getting anyone out in any role.
But, given "X" ability - why does the SP/RP sloshing seem so random in terms of results? I think it is mostly tied up in personality. But, it's certainly not binary. To close, you need to thrive a little on the do-or-dieness of the moment. You certainly cannot afford to be weak under pressure. But, it's actually a trinary proposition -- some guys thrive under pressure -- some fold -- many are ambivalent -- doesn't help or hurt them.
For starters, the game is much more complex, and the pattern of work is rather sporadic. Pitch, Rest, Toss, Rest, Rest, Pitch -- (or some variant thereof). You typically know your next start days in advance. But, that also means you may begin planning your strategy for that game, and going over hitters way in advance.
For relievers, it's much more a "what are the concerns TODAY" kind of deal. You've got more of an "in the moment" job, but it also has an aspect of not knowing whether you'll pitch or not.
From a psychological standpoint, the jobs are VASTLY different. And a guy who LOVES routine might well be more comfortable in EITHER situation -- because the starter has a between starts map -- while the reliever has a smoother sameness to every day.
My own personality is one that THRIVES on routine. I work to remove randomness from my life in just about every way possible. I'm at my best when I establish a routine that is steady and repetitive. And once in that routine, I get more and more CREATIVE. This sounds contradictory on the surface - but it's how things work "for me". Doesn't mean it applies to anyone else. (But, humans are suckers for foisting their own personality traits onto others).
With Morrow, I'm beginning to think that he's a bit like me. What he craves internally is a clear vision of tomorrow. But, his entire career has been one where he's relieving now - but that WILL change in the future. His return to the pen in a formal, potentially final, way is only days old. Sometimes it takes the mind a little while to catch up.
My suspicion is that the regimental nature of diabetes can alter or tweak the underlying psychology. It LITERALLY becomes a survival imperative. You may hate being regimented, but if your actual life depends on routine and attention to detail, you adapt. And I suspect that adaptation is likely not limited solely to that single arena of life.
My thought is that Morrow "can" thrive (eventually), as closer. But, it's not likely going to be a smooth journey. It's not the diabetes that is the issue -- first, he has to get comfortable. Then, he has to build up his consistency. And the final stage, (which has been almost completely absent from Seattle for years), is that he'll need to learn what to do on days when he IS struggling. Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux --- they didn't have their best stuff EVERY day. (Maddux had a couple of years where that was mostly true, perhaps), but the reality is that EVERY pitcher, regardless of talent has days where his body won't obey his mind.
Randy Johnson a few years back had a perfectly awful first inning. He was wild like a rookie. Within a dozen pitches, he realized how off he was, he figured out which pitches he actually could control to some degree, and simply ditched everything else for the night, (except as an occasional showcase). He bulled his way to a victory. A young arm would've been in the showers by the 3rd inning. THAT is the key ingredient that Hall of Fame arms develop.
I dunno if anyone on the Ms will develop that kind of magic. Morrow and Felix are so young, it's only guess work. But, even Rivera blows 4-7 saves a season. He'll typically have 3 weeks during a season, (not all at once), where he simply isn't sharp. But, he knows what to do to survive on those nights. Morrow is a Looooong way from learning those lessons. At this point, his best friends are going to be repetition and steady work. Results in the short term are almost irrelevant.
And just in case anyone has forgotten, in John Smoltz first outing as the annointed closer for the Braves, he gave up 8 runs. That was NOT an omen of things to come.
Maybe what we are seeing is that mechanically -- from a scout perspective -- he is better suited to the rotation, but blood sugar wise, the 'pen is better.
Great thoughts again amigos -- especially the Smoltz part :- )
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It could be that Morrow's disease has progressed, and starting isn't a viable option. That's the asterisk to all my griping and moaning.
But did you guys see this quote in LaRue's column?
“I asked to be a starter last year because the closing job clearly was filled – we had J.J. for another year, at least,” Morrow said. “Then he was traded, and I started thinking about the job again. There’s nothing in baseball like closing.
“Coming into a game with two men on and Manny Ramirez up? C’mon – that’s exhilarating. And you might work two, three games in a row. I like feeling more like an everyday player than a guy who works every fifth day.”
Everybody in the blog-o-sphere is giving Brandon the benefit of the doubt, not wanting to be too hard on him if he (unbeknownst to us) CANNOT close. I think that friendly spirit is awesome.
But we can take him at his word, too. He said he's closing because he likes it better than starting.
I think Kelly might be right on. Last year Morrow's BB/9 was 6.1 in the rotation, 7.1 after the Yankee start.
Thats pretty much in line with what Morrow has always done in the rotation. Hes never shown good command. Not in college, the minors, or the the majors. In the bullpen though hes shown he can throw strikes.
I really think its just ST rust; he may need a temporary demotion.
Yeah, if he loses the radar in the rotation, it's got to be due to blood sugar or something, because his mechanics are picture-perfect for command and control. You couldn't ask for better body control, a quieter head, or a guy lighter on his feet.
His senior year at Cal, he was 7-4, 2.05 with 9.0k, 3.6bb and 0.5hr.
Maybe he can't physically start, but again, that's not what he SAID. What he said was that after Putz left, relieving started to look good. :- )
Well...
He CAN physically start; he did it last year. It just may be *more difficult*, and I don't denigrate him for that at all.
I still maintain that part of what's driving his interest in closing is the financial aspect, the $/effort requirement, and playing the odds for a lucrative career.
That opinion of mine is a nod to Doc's opinion of his (general) softness as a dominant pitcher, ala Gil Meche. If you think RJ pitches his guts out for an extra million, you're wrong. He pitches that way because he has to. It's how he's wired.
Lets say you're a musician, and you love writing music for film and video. This is what you're trained to do, this is what you're good at. You could write music for independent films, documentaries, feature-length dramas. Or, you could write music for.... TV commercials.
You're much more likely to have a profitable career doing TV commercials. There are more jobs out there; it's easier; you need less skill because you don't need to sustain & develop motifs for 2 hours - you only have to do it for 30 seconds. And you can make very nearly as much money as a top-flight film scorer.
So if you're a young composer, and you're success as a film scorer has been spotty and is uncertain, but you've done some really great commercials, well.... you can see how doing jingles might become more attractive.
/analogy
Good point on his senior year Doc. For whatever reason I remembered its as 5.0+.
We still don't know with Morrow. Command has never really been his strong point asides from the bullpen in '08.
Well, if he is "physically" perfect for great control -- but has a long history of control issues -- then it pretty much becomes the default answer -- the control issues are in his head. While this may be blood-sugar related, it certainly doesn't have to be.
What's interesting to me in regards to Morrow's "makeup" is the insight that he asked to be a starter because "closer" was filled. That, in my mind, is exactly opposite of the assessment that he is "weak" in character. The guy with no ambition is the guy who does what he's told - never opens his mouth - gladly takes over as a setup guy, a swing man, a long reliever, and never says a word.
By his own words, it's a case of "if I can't close, then I want to start." This is not the picture of a guy attempting to avoid anything. In point of fact, it's a picture of a guy who WANTS to be "The Man".
While the mathematicians can talk value -- it is EASY to see how a player could view closer as being as much or more valueable to a team. He gets to pitch more often - almost always under pressure - and he gets to be a part of more victories.
The more I hear from Morrow, the more I interpret his actions and words as showing EXACTLY the type of "go-get-'em" character that he's been accused of lacking. His response to his meltdown was to say he needs to have a short memory. CLEARLY, he wants the situation, and understands that he needs to set aside the negatives and plan on succeeding next time out. THAT is exactly the kind of attitude you want in any ballplayer, but especially a closer.
As for the inability to figure out why he couldn't throw strikes. That is NORMAL for young pitchers. That's precisely what learning on the job is about as a ML pitcher. As noted previously, when starting, he was everything from stellar to dreadful. No clue as to what you were going to get on any given day. But, the kid still has VERY few ML innings under his belt. It takes time to build up that resevoir of experience and start finding those "go-to" solutions when things go awry. After two outs, he couldn't clear the mechanism. Why? He doesn't know. I don't know. But, I'm betting the coaches are going over the tape repeatedly to find some crumb to give the kid the next time things go wonky.
Ultimately, it probably isn't about what the crumb is - just that the kid has something to "try". That, by itself, may be enough to avoid another such collapse.
Then again, I wonder, if Batista gets the final out, and the club wins - is the angst about Morrow nearly as strong?
Or...if Wak is NOT a moron and goes to a pitcher that is NOT the worst arm in the pen...LOL..I'm guessing the angst would be less
Matt,
Maybe Wak is just trying to get Batista to play himself off the roster as quickly as possible - before the games actually matter. :-)
All the games actually matter.
Each one coutns as one game in this 162 game season.
But it would be nice if when Chad Cordero and Tyler Johnson and Jeff Zimmerman are ready to come up, Batista is the first casualty...even nicer if Aardsma is the second casualty.