Should Ko K'Mo Just Hit Left?
Quibbles and bits, Dept.

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Excellent article today by Sully at LL.  Now, there's a sentence that contains five trite observations in seven words. Dare you to top that, amigo.

The excellent article is followed by a weird spitting match in the threads, but ... we'll raise one eyebrow, lower the other, and walk by.  Like when you walk by The Crypt downtown.  In any case, the question is interesting, and they have had it in the Cuisinart over there at BJOL this month.

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=== Talking Points ===

Talk to ANY big leaguer about giving up his switch hitting, and the conversation will last one-point-five seconds.  "It's too late," he shrugs.

So the question is moot.  James, who (as an expert on the player pool containing every MLB player who ever lived...) does not like switch hitting, follows on by acknowledging "not having hit right against RHP's for years and years, it may not be a viable option to do it."

Nick Franklin, I think, is drawing very close to the point of no return.  What a shame.

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No study has resolved the question for a person who didn't start off rooting for one answer or the other, I don't think.  As you know, whether it's in medicine or baseball, you can cite studies that back up either side.  The META-study situation is confusing to me (and to James).

I know one thing:  it's not as simple as "what part of 'slider breaking into you' don't you understand?"  Every question and issue known to mankind, every single one, is easy to solve if you refuse to look at any variable except for your single favorite variable.  Supposing that bending over in half put your eyes closer to the ball?  Would any other variables complicate the situation?

James has an interesting remark here:  nobody hits with one hand.  Both swings are two-handed.  Think for a second.

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I don't think you could ever completely capture this issue, because you could never isolate the variables.  What you'd need would be like 100x teenage sets of twins, half of whom gave up switch-hitting.  

It doesn't cover it, just to ask "Do switch-hitters have larger-than-normal platoon differentials?"  Because their entire baseball development arc has been morphed by the very fact that they hit switch.  

But:  James observes that in the 1970's and 1980's, platoon splits seemed very large for MLB switch-hitters, and they are generally much smaller now.  As he says, "I don't know that this resolves the larger issue."

Right, because if Lance Berkman's career OPS is 1007 from the left side and 777 from the right side ... there's no way to know what he (OR ANY OTHER PLAYER) would have been in an alternate universe, had they never switch-hit a single time.  Maybe Berkman would have been a 1116 OPS guy, like Teddy, if he'd just hit left.   Or maybe his embarrassments against LHP's would have wrecked his career.  How can you predict?

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Math hasn't solve this problem, and we've given you the experimental-design considerations that make it unlikely that math ever will solve the problem.

You're left with a thought experiment.  Take the gorgeous lefty swings you've seen -- Ichiro, Junior, Olerud, those kind of guys -- and tell me that you can picture their SW careers as working out better.  No chance.  Imagine Junior if somebody had stapled a righty swing on to him at age 17.

People point out, "Mick was the only epic hitter who batted switch," and we go "one hitter in 25.  That doesn't prove much."  But the point there is if you have a Lou Gehrig swing, you don't want to mess with it.  The great hitters didn't switch.  That's why.

Switch-hitting might be a good idea for some teenagers -- but for guys with swings like Ichiro, Junior, and Nick Franklin?  You'd have to have rocks in your head.

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James states his conviction against switch-hitting thusly:

 

On switch hitting... You have written that on the seventies somebody thought that young speedsters would take advantage of switch hitting, thus a lot of young players became switch hitters. You thought that to be one of the worst ideas in the history of coaching and mentioned U. L. Washington, as example of a good right handed hitter but a poor left handed hitter. However, there are some hitters who are sort of natural switch hitters, aren't there? Tony Fernandez might be one of the SH with more evened stats: as a RHH against LHP: .286/.343/.391 in BA/OBP/SLG; as a LHH against RHP: .289/.349/.402. Do you know about a switch hitter with so evened stats?

Asked by: jbdominicano

Answered: 12/15/2012

MANY of the switch hitters now have even stats.   In the 60s. .. .after Maury Wills. .. a lot of guys started switch hitting when they were 19, 20 years old.   Wills became a switch hitter in the minor leagues, to take advantage of his speed.   It worked for him, so for a while, any kid who could run, they tried to make him a switch hitter.   Mike Schmidt was a switch hitter in college.    A lot of them. ..80% of them, I'd say, couldn't hit worth a [nickel] left-handed.   Schmidt was smart enough to give it up after a couple of years and go back to hitting the way that was natural to him. But now, a lot of kids start switch-hitting at age 5, and most of the switch hitters today are true switch hitters.  About the same one way as the other.

 

Giving us a compass bearing here:  has the player in question been swinging the bat naturally from both sides, since he was a toddler?

 

I don't know what the case is with Morales; he's going to switch-hit for the rest of his life, and he had a good year in 2012 batting righty, so maybe he was a toddler hitting from both side.  

 

I dunno about Morales or Smoak.  I do know that switch-hitting was plastered on to Nick Franklin in high school, in a cowardly attempt to keep him from being embarrassed by 84 MPH fastballs.

 

It probably ain't too late for Franklin right now.  But in two months, it probably will be.

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

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I was disappointed that the M's just didn't tell Franklin, last year (or in the AFL) that he was batting LH all the time. If he didn't want to do that against lefties, then he wasn't playing against lefties. Simple enough.
Right now with Franklin, I'm ready for him to be on the MLB roster and playing against' RHP. As I said in another thread, put him in LF against righties. He'll be fine. Let him rest Seager and Ackley (looks like we don't see him as a SS) when they need it. McLemore him. He gets 130 starts that way. Tacomo-stash him for 23 games, and he still gets 110+ starts. But use ST to make him swing lefty against lefties.
I think we make too much about that move. He's been seeing professional pitches from the left side for his whole career...he's not learning a new skill. He would simply be taking advantage of his natural ones.
He doesn't hit MiLB chuckers from the right side. Who is telling him he will be able to do it against big league guys?
moe

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I'm not sure that the M's have given up using Nick as a SS, like they have Seager. I'd bet that he replaces Andino as the MI backup by mid-year and plays SS frequently against righties. I agree that Nick is a prime candidate for the McLemore plan, but only because Miller appears to be the better SS; I think he eventually takes Ryan's spot. Since Ryan has played 2nd, and 3rd also, with St. Louis, and originally came to be our 2b, I think we keep him for late-inning work and leadership.
That means Carp and Liddi appear to have limits on their tenure, though, which is unfortunate. Morales and Smoak, with Ackley available, fill 1B just fine (unless Smoak forgets how to hit again). And Seager, Romero, and Ryan, with Franklin available to cover SS, should cover 3rd, unless Liddi or Catricala really step it up before mid-year when Nick and Stefan will probably be ready. I hope that either Romero or Franklin can backup in the OF, so one can be the Figgins of flexibility for us next year and beyond - assuming that they hit like they have so far.
Another interesting one to watch, for me, is Leon Landry. If he follows the Seager track (which he appears to be on), he'll be ready by mid-to-late next year after taking apart AA and mastering AAA. I don't think he will tank, or stall like Vinnie; his record in college and so far shows the dirt-dog persona similar to Seager that just refuses to be beaten. Look at his response to being traded - he stepped it up well beyond the change in home parks. That will give us some interesting competition in the OF and may be the end of somebody in the OF mix, too.
I think this strong possibilty is giving JackZ pause on Bourn - what is the chance that Landry is up by the end of next year, and is, like Seager, an effective player quickly? The other thing this would do is solve the Ackley/leadoff problem, without costing the draft choice, and allow Ackley to hit 2nd, where his skill is maximized. Landry's emergence is no certainty, but it certainly would be a key to being competitive without tying the Ms to a contract and loss of a draft choice.
Then, too, there's Marder coming. If he also does a Seager, which his record strongly shows he could, we might have an interesting dilemma on the bench. If he can catch as well as play infield and outfield, that eases the necessity to carry players to backup these positions and allows keeping a player like Morales who somewhat duplicates Montero or Smoak.
2013 is going to be a great year - hope we don't go into it too encumbered. Morales, Bay, and Andino (and Ryan) could be more than stopgaps - I hope they are, and that Bay is comeback player of the year. But I'd lay better odds on at least two of Franklin, Miller, Romero, Landry, and Marder succeeding by the end of the year, and probably more, setting us up for a lineup that can be reinforced by DeCarlo, Lopes, Guerrero, etc., in future years. Good things ahead.

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correction to the above comment - I hope Bay and Bonderman TIE for comeback player of the year. Now sign Erikkkk Bedard to a minor league deal and see if we can make a trifecta! That way when the Big Four are ready, we'll get some real deadline loot for proven MLBers!

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When they acquired Andino, I looked at his numbers and it occurred to me that he would be an ideal "soft platoon" with Franklin at SS.
In that scenario, Ryan would be traded for something valuable.  I don't think he's part of the long-term plan once Franklin and/or Miller is MLB-ready.
But I don't think we'll see Franklin until much later in the year.  He's not on the "Seager" pre-packaged, ready-made, just-add-water mode.  He's got some more development to do.

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Ya, I totally agree with your third paragraph especially.  Left-on-left, Franklin would essentially be hitting RHP's who were throwing tough angles to him ... ML batters have to face strange pitches, like Iwakuma's shuuto, or submarine relievers, etc.  They're not helpless just because the pitch angle is not hyper-familiar.

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He definitely has a "scampering" quickness to him.  If his arm is plenty for the throw from the hole, I'm sure he can play shortstop, at least in the sense that multi-fielders like Nick Punto and Marco Scutaro do it.
Looking at him live, you'd think he's a shortstop.  Haven't seen the arm, though.

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So that platoon makes 97 kinds of sense.  But I agree Spec.  Seems to me like Franklin could use some more high-minors AB's.  You don't get the sense that his thoughts are super-organized on the pitch sequences yet.  Reminds you of Ackley kind of, in the way that he takes an extra tick to read the ball, and then snaps that really quick bat at it.  Not a lot of loadup at this point.
Just noodlin'.  Could be wrong.
:daps: Spec

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I suspect he wants a major league contract and the Ms are offering a minor league deal with invite to protect the 40-man. I hope he settles, because he would strengthen the staff, especially if he's willing to be a swing-man and try relieving. His stuff appears to still be there - it's how to make the most of his limited stamina. And maybe, just maybe, Noesi will listen to french.

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