Prince Fielder - Seattle vs Florida vs Field

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Know this, going in, that Jack Zduriencik has a big dose of Justin Smoak in him.  He genuinely does not want to hear applause as he steps into the box; he wants applause as he's rounding third base in a trot.  When he steps into the box, he wants to see a lot of texting in the stands.

Zduriencik also has a large "I'll believe it when I see it" streak.  He is sincere when he intones, shoulders slumped, that he half-expects another team to be "lying low, playing possum," and to jump in at the last second with a Boras-pleasing deal.
 
And if that occurred -- if the M's offered Fielder 8/$180 as Dr. D thinks they would -- if the M's had a deal half-done and the Marlins jumped in at 8/$195, then Boras would cackle with glee and take pleasure in leaving the M's at the altar.
 
Zduriencik, our SSI hero, would have squat to complain about, considering the way he (reportedly) did the Yankees.  And so we hear Zduriencik issuing cautions, that the Mariners aren't frontrunners until there were a press conference.  He believes that.  So does SSI.
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I/O:  Mariners are in big on Prince Fielder.
 

CRUNCH:  Dr. D likes to think that he specializes in reading between Fortune-500 lines, and he was quite taken aback by this Monday article.
 
Johns quoted Capt Jack thusly:
"Sometimes things fall apart and it's not always because of you. It's because the other side didn't buy into it. Those are the unknowns. From our standpoint, to go out and blow your trumpet doesn't do any good."
 
In Zduriencik-speak, that's tantamount to a flying belly-flop off the tower into a kiddie pool.
 
He means that --- > some other GM, given his same circumstances in Seattle, would blow his trumpet.  He'd say, "We've got the money approved from on high, and it is an offer that can get the job done.  We're going after Fielder and we like our chances!"
 
So the Mariners are finally, at long last, acting like a middle-big market team, one with a $0.5 billion stadium.  They're just not talking like it.  Dr. D approves of both of these developments.
 
Other quotes in the Johns article reinforced the same thing.  The M's met with Fielder last night, and you would pretty well doubt that they submitted an offer sheet.  But it's like Boras goes, "Prince is looking for some long-term security.  Pujols got ten years; Cabrera got 8."  And the M's suits nod and go, "With Prince, we could probably talk about the longer contract terms rather than the shorter ones.  We think he'd be really happy here."
 
And the finger-trigger games begin, because in expensive negotiations, whoever says the first number loses.
 
SSI didn't say anything at the time, but then here comes a followup public statement that should signal the beginning of a mini-era ....
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Taro's picture

UZR does adjust for park, but it does seem that defenders on either extreme still benefit/suffer.
A poor CF may do even worse in Safeco (look at Trayvon for instance). Jones is a nice player, but a really bat fit for Safeco with his swing and D.
I'm guessing Denard Span would cost signficantly less to acquire, is signed up cheaper for more years, and would likely outperform Jones in Safeco.
I wouldn't want any part of trading Smoak to Bal. Why trade the cheap players you need so desperately for spare parts (even Jones is getting more expensive)?

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Jones does indeed have some defense issues. The frustrating thing is he's got the tools - he's fast with a very strong and accurate arm - he's just not a particularly skilled CF. Poor jumps, misreads, bad tracks to flyballs over his heads, far too many drops that hit off his glove. One of his main problems is he plays too shallow, which results in the occassional spectacular play (which probably got him his gold glove) but ultimately is more than cancelled out by the many, many miscues. Ideally, if the M's were to acquire Jones, it would be to play LF with Trayvon in CF.
Despite the defensive woes, I'll also point out that Jones is a high energy, outspoken leader. The O's are in a hopeless situation - that feeling when you first learned the Angels signed Pujols and Wilson is what it's been like everyday for the past 10 years for Orioles players. Furthermore, personality-wise, the makeup of the team is mostly passive introverts whose reality is entirely defined by statlines telling them they don't have a chance. Jones has been the guy to rally the troops to go up against the Red Sox and Yankees. Still not always to the best results, but the players battled this year in a way they haven't before and Jones was the guy behind it. Not all that different from how Brendan Ryan led that mini-surge the M's had around May. Jones doesn't just upgrade the offense, he influences the identity of the ballclub.

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Taro's picture

The price was Drew Storen+change this deadline. Since then Span had a minor concussion and tanked. I can't imagine his trade value is higher.
League doesn't have the control years Storen had, but probably a slightly more desirable RP.
I'm guessing something like League+Trayvon (or similar toolsy guy) would at least get you into serious discussions.

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Lot of pro's and con's with Span, but with Guti there are only con's.

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Without even looking it up, I'll bet he started out playing football.  He's always been mechanical on a baseball field, dubious instincts, superb physical reactions, aggressive (rather than calculating) demeanor, muscles the game rather than angling past it.
That's not Jack's type of guy, but objectively speaking, the 2012 Opening Day lineup would be much improved.
Sure is nice to get the on-site Baltimore scouting reports.

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