Erasmo Ramirez - Come Up to the Lab, See What's On the Slab
THISSSSS short of a Pineda-, Seager-, Lincecum-type SSIBB

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... actually, am considering making Erasmo the 4th member of the club, however.  Pineda and Lincecum, Seager ... hmmmmm ... whattaya think G...

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=== Picture's Worth 1,000 Words, Dept. ===

His September 30th start -- against the awe-inspiring Ranger-ripping Angel-mangling Your 2012 American League West Champion Oakland A's -- is recorded for posterity rat cheer

I'd watch it.  :- /  ::dennis leary::

FIRST PITCH against LH Reddick -- 82 deadfish changeup, started middle-out and high, swerved way outside and rolled off the table.  Garbage swing by Reddick, leaned wayyyy out, took the snap and accel out of his bat in an attempt to be only one mile in front rather than two, and of course pulled the head way off the ball.

It's kind of hard to get across, in words, how reluctant the batters are to cut loose with a swing after they've had the yo-yo string pulled on them quite that bad.  Billy Beane once complained sourly of Jamie Moyer, "we get better swings off Pedro than off Moyer."

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SECOND PITCH against LH Drew -- MLB hitters hate to look like Reddick does on that first pitch ... but do you know what they hate more?  Having a 37-mile-an-hour fastball thrown by them -- this latter makes them look amateurish AND feminine.*  

Moyer once said he had a career only because major leaguers REFUSE to EVER let an 87-mph fastball get thrown by them.  So what happens when you have a Moyer :- ) who throws 94 mph?  You get Ramirez' second pitch on the video, the one where Drew locks up.

The uninitiated but alert will squeak, "He didn't throw it by Drew."  Well, no.  Once it's too late, Drew would rather take the strike and hope for the best, maybe shake his head at the ump a little, versus swinging after the ball's in the mitt.

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The uninitiated and unalert will talk, this spring, about the league's adjustments to Ramirez the second time around the league.  You, the discerning SSI reader, understand that there is no such thing as adjusting to the above two-pitch whipsaw.  There is only the aggressive roll of the dice -- hoping that Ramirez will leave a fastball out-and-over.  Or the passive roll of the dice, taking cut-down swings and hoping for sharp one-hoppers through the infield.

There is no defense, real or theoretical, to Ramirez' game IF HE EXECUTES it.  This is where the cliche comes in, "The pitcher holds the ball."  He's the one who has to give the hitter an opportunity.  Ask the Rays when our ace is Felix'ing.

Erasmo throws these pitches, he wins, end of story.  And with that Greg Maddux machine-like motion, I like his chances of throwing these pitches.  Erasmo is THIS close to being an SSI Best Bet.  In a 2013 Roto draft for sure he's one of the top 20 AL starters taken.

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For the whipped cream and cherry on top, fast forward to 0:48 on the video and enjoy the slider.

If Erasmo Ramirez were tall, and cool-looking, and had been hyped out of college -- let's say he were Max Scherzer or Kyle Drabek or any Yankee -- and he executed exactly these pitches?  If the same pitches were flying out the hand of a guy who looked like, and was drafted like, Brandon Morrow?  He'd be a national celebrity.  He'd be assumed to be the next big thing.

I mighta heard it wrong.  I thought Zduriencik said, on the Hot Stove, that Erasmo was THE youngest pitcher in the majors last year.  Is that right?

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If he'd qualified, Erasmo Ramirez would have been a top-10 AL starter in 2012:

  • xFIP - 10th in the league, above Lester, Peavy, CJ Wilson, Jered Weaver
  • FIP - 10th again, ahead of all those guys and a feewwww others
  • ERA - 9th, ahead of CC Sabathia, James Shields, etc.

No, Erasmo isn't yet one of the top 12 starters in the league.  But that's what sabermetrics was invented for, to tell you who those guys were, before the sportswriters knew it.

Each year, there are a handful of pitchers like Erasmo, kids who had a great partial season, ran BaseballHQ BPV's of 100 or so in 50, 80 innings, ran them up to the end of the year.  Last year ... Tyler Skaggs, Drew Smyly.  Cory Luebke has thrown 150 innings across a few years, has a career xFIP of 3.21.   I dunno if Trevor Rosenthal is going to start.  Patrick Corbin.

Those guys are around, but (1) I'd like to have those guys also, and (2) it's about a young pitcher's game, whether it looks well-suited to the majors long term.

Erasmo is precisely the kind of guy that you're praying your roto enemies don't know about.  People flip me any static about him being anything less than a Grade A, blue-chip super deluxe prospect, I won't HESITATE to move him into Best Best status and throw the lurkers into the Pit of Stench for the R.O.U.S.'es to feast upon.

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Be Afraid,

Young Fronk-uhn-steen

 

*(No offense to NCAA softball players who have quicker bats than major leaguers.)

 

Comments

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If he can throw his FB anywhere around the plate, with his change and slider he's a TOR guy. Everytime I watched him throw last6 year I was impressed by his simple-classic motion and an unflappable attitude. Barring injury, Felix, ERAM and Iwakuma might be as good as any 1-2-3 in the league, outside of Detroit.
Doc, you were first in on a certain injured young Yankee starter. First all in here, too.
I'll stand right behind you in that line. Give him the ball. Put him in the #2 or #3 slot and sit back and enjoy.
Edit: Maddux was my favorite MLB'er for a long time. Is he the best RHP ever? Maybe. Probably, if you discount Clemens. But what I most remember about Maddux was that I always thought he was the best athlete on the field. He alays looked like he would be Stockton on the basketball court and Ashe on the tennis court. He probably was a very easy 4 or 5 handicap in golf, too. he moved with a rhythm that was smooth, but focused.
ERAM seems to have some of that easy athleticism. Was he a soccer player as a youth? Probably a goal scoring machine.
Remember Gretzky? He wasn't the biggest or fastest...but just the best athlete on the ice. maddux, too.
I get a bit of that from Erasmo. Exceptional athleticism.
moe

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Lonnie of MC's picture

... that often gets glossed over is his lion's heart. The kid has ALWAYS pushed himself to be the best, and I fully expect must the same from him in 2013. I've had my eye on this kid for a long time now and he has yet to let me down.
Case in point, in 2011 Erasmo was promoted up to AAA in mid-season or so and got smacked around pretty well in his 7 games played. In 2012 Erasmo returned to AAA ,and besides some outlier games, like the one that G and I attended in Colorado Springs where nothing was working for him (including an umpire with a pint-sized strikezone), ER dominated the PCL .
Erasmo Ramirez WILL have a solid year in 2013 as the teams #3 starter. I can easily see double digit wins and an ERA again under 4.

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