It's funny that you mention the 1995 Mariner-Yankee series. I don't go to that many baseball games, but was actually at game 5--definitely one of my favorite sports moments ever.
Thanks for the Seahawks game analysis. I think I understood about half of it, which is pretty good for me.
Go Hawks! -becksta
As the years go on, this game will gain weight and resonance.
The 2010 Saints-Seahawks playoff game was comparable to the 1995 Mariners-Yankees series, complete with a historically-great play being the very play to seal an 'impossible' victory against a champion.
True, the 1995 Mariners had the backdrop of baseball being saved in Seattle. Except for that, this game might have equalled the 1995 ALDS every inch.
Every once in a long while, sports transcend. This is a game to bask in, all the way up to kickoff of the next game.
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The percentages below -- like baseball base-out run expectancies -- are theoretical and do not take into account quality of opponents or any other factor.
Folks lose track of the fact that --- > if there's a man on 2nd, 0 out, then the offense can expect 1.2 runs all things being equal. If Ichiro's up, that changes! If Garrett Olson is pitching, it also changes. If Olson's pitching and Joe Mauer's up, it double-changes.
That matters, a lot. Fans go, well, our chances were 24% at that point. Usually not. They were probably 20%, or 30%, or even 15% or 35%.
The advancednflstats.com win probabilities assume a bunch of things being equal: opponents, crowd, etc... well, quality of opponents and crowd.
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20%: Dr. D's pregame estimate
19%: Saints go up 10-0 midway through 1Q (therefore my pregame % was wrong somewhere. The Seahawks' pregame chances, in front of their home crowd, were not as bad as those of any random team that goes down 10-0 early. The early 10-0 deficits include all the mismatches and blowouts.)
19%: Saints go up 17-7 early in the 2Q (fascinating that this is the same as above. It seems to balance 10-point deficits early, and later, by editing out blowouts)
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38%: Seahawks come back to 17-14 (during the game, I said 35-40%. The factor of the Saints' quality balanced the crowd, and the fact that the Seahawks, surprisingly, had got a footing in the game, so 38% is about right IMHO)
48%: Seahawks tie it 17-17 with 5 minutes left in 2Q, Saints to take ball, but KO in 3Q
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74%: Hass throws zig-out to Stokely for 24-17 lead, just before half (real probability maybe 45% now. Give the Seahawks 7 points vs Brees next week, with a half left, and are you betting Seahawks?)
86%: Seahawks go up 31-20 early in second half (actual odds maybe 55%, 60% now. Brees threw a bad incompletion on the next drive and we remarked to the kids: with THAT play, their coach is starting to worry)
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95%: Seahawks penetrate to N.O 30 midway through 3Q (and likely 34-20 lead with field goal) (actual chances more like 75%. Are you kidding me? 95% of teams with 11 points, and the ball, and 20 minutes left, win?)
96%: Seahawks actually kick field goal late in 3Q (fascinating that odds didn't change from above)
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58%: Brees brings Saints back to within 7 points early in 4th quarter (this was the actual highest WP for Seahawks in the game, prior to Lynch's "I Am A Man" run - so the intuitive cap of 58% was vindicated by the graph at this point)
76-83%: Odds rise to this midway through 4Q, as Seahawks move ball out to around midfield (what strange WP increase; shows you how critical each 4Q drive becomes, as time remaining starts decreasing geometrically)
88%: Saints punt with 4:30 left, down 30-34
94%: Lynch TD with 3:38 left, 41-30 Seahawks
87%: Brees passes Saints out to midfield, down 11 points, with 3:12 left (can this be higher than at 4:30 left? How? If they score they're down 4, but with less time left)
99%: Carlson recovers onside kick
100%: From 5:05 PM PST until the earth ends
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One of the greatest ever,
Dr D
Comments
It's been 15 years and I have kids that didn't experience it. I missed the second half and The Run because I am well encamped on the Husky Men's Basketball bandwagon. What a moment that must have been. Seattle Sports have had a good month!
at game FIVE ... I'm green with envy. I was at game six, Indians series that is, so we hold down opposite sides of the Greek drama masks ...
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Word comes out today that Lynch's run caused an 'earthquake' that measured on a seismic monitor at the site of the old Kingdome.
Not sure that Edgar's Double wouldn't have registered higher ..
My kids were born in 1990 and 1992. :- ( John's up-close memories of Griff were from the last coupla years. Too bad they weren't from the middle 90's...
UW still plays basketball? How about an 010-011 primer for those of us focused on teams that don't play for the love of the game? :- )
Sure Doc. Coach Romar has a team that's talented, deep, and plays hard. They have size, speed, sizeandspeed (the big guys run the floor), and are athletic. Second in the nation in scoring, undefetated in the Pac10, ranked 17 currently. They recently lost their starting point guard, but didn't lose a beat because they have 3 of them.
One word comes to mind when they take to the court: SHOWTIME!
Are they scoring against the tough teams?
Pleasant against the tough teams, but not the scorcher you'll otherwise likely get, even against the "good teams". You'll watch a team come in, and play and shoot at the level you know they can't keep up with, while the Dawgs will struggle, and look up at halftime and see the U-Dub with a narrow lead. With the deep bench Romar can go to, you know the opposition is in trouble, and it's off to the races.
Unfortunately, recent off court developments, when coupled with the recent season ending injury to their point guard, threatens to put that depth into serious jeopardy. An unnamed player is currently being investigated for an sexual assault case. Gulp.
Bill Simmons' Playoff Picks article on ESPN.com. Funny stuff with a solid Seattle slant.
You get any NCAA team loaded with great athletes and it seems like the legal issues are not far around the corner... maybe it's just my imagination...
If you and I were running a bigtime NCAA program, would we have any easier a time with recruiting decisons? ... seems like it's either win or be clean...
graciasness...