Seattle Sports Insider

By the Numbers

Posted by

jemanji

4/23/09

3.01 - What is the 2009 Mariners' teamwide ERA

3.12 - What is Roger Clemens' career ERA

3.08 - What is Johann Santana's career ERA

3.27 - What is Randy Johnson's career ERA

3.52 - What is Roy Halladay's career ERA

3.78 - What is Josh Beckett's career ERA

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4.73 - What was the Seattle Mariners' ERA last year

4.00 - What was the LA Angels' ERA last year

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19% - What percentage of their games are the Mariners winning by 1-0 or 2-0 scores

67 - How many strikeouts does the M's 'Big Three' have

16 - How many walks has the M's 'Big Three' allowed

2 - How many home runs has the M's 'Big Three allowed (in 10 starts)

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10.7 - How many strikeouts per game is Erik Bedard getting

MORE - Did Bedard strike out MORE, or FEWER, men than 10.7 in the 2007 season

10.7 - What is Randy Johnson's career strikeout rate

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1.4 - How many walks a game is Erik Bedard allowing in 2009

2.8 - How many walks did Bedard allow in 2007

3.3 - What is Randy Johnson's career BB rate

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0.0 - How many homers is Erik Bedard giving up this year

0.8 - What is Erik Bedard's career HR rate

0.9 - What is Randy Johnson's career HR rate

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Better Curve Ball & Pitchability - How does Bedard perform like the Big Unit, if he doesn't throw 97

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104 - How many pitches did Felix Hernandez throw in Thursday's game

1 run - What was the M's lead when Felix left after 104 pitches

Upton, Crawford, Longoria, Pena - Which TB batters were coming up in the 8th when Felix left

VERY - How badly did the Mariners need Felix to pitch the 8th (withOUT benefit of hindsight)

YES - Is Felix basically a 100-pitch pitcher

14x12 - How many AL pitchers are basically 100-pitch pitchers

NO - Is it fair to Bedard to rip him for being a "100 pitch pitcher"

YES - Did Felix pitch like an ace, as Geoff Baker pointed out that he needed to

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1 out of 3 - How many games has Erik Bedard won, posting a 1.86 ERA

BEDARD - Who is the superior baseball pitcher, Erik Bedard or Felix Hernandez

3 - How many hot prospects do teams typically give up when they trade for a Cy Young starter

4 - How many more hot prospects would Dr. D give up for another Cy Young starter, if one could be had

5 - How many more hot prospects, Saunders- and Halman-style, will likely emerge during this season (e.g. Fields, Carp, Juan Ramirez, etc)

Putz - Who does D-O-V wish we had back (so Brandon Morrow would choose to start)

81 - How many innings does Dr. D think that Erik Bedard would be willing to pitch in a lost cause

181 - How many innings does Dr. D think that Erik Bedard would be willing to pitch in a pennant race

See you on hi-def,

Dr D

Comments

Did you watch the game today

Did you watch the game today Doc? You may have been working...it was an afternoon game on the west coast. Felix did not pitch the 8th because he aggravated his ankle not once, not twice, but three separate times and the Mariners wanted to be careful. He never wants out of a game and if he can just stop hurting himself trying to play defense, he will show you he is most certainly NOT a 100 pitch pitcher.
Right NOW...Bedard is the better pitcher in terms of results...I think Felix will have better numbers at the end of the year though.

Was at the game. He came out

Was at the game. He came out for the 7th on the same ankle he could have come out for the 8th. The ankle could just as well have forced him out after 90 pitches as after 104.
BTW, Felix will pitch with the ankle all year, most likely, unless they allow him to skip a couple turns in a row. Few pitchers are going out there pain-free.
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In any case, let's say you think Felix Hernandez is a 110-pitch pitcher. I'll stand by my defense that Erik Bedard gets a bum rap for not throwing 6 or 8 pitches more per start...
Point isn't that Felix wimped out. It's that with the investments teams have in these fragile starters, about 100 pitches is the norm any more.

Felix is far more TALENTED

Felix is far more TALENTED than Bedard, and he's getting there in terms of pitchability... the day may come when he's the best pitcher in baseball...
Right now, I'm not sure Erik Bedard isn't the best pitcher in baseball :- )

Oh I totally agree about

Oh I totally agree about Bedard being mistreated by the Media in Seattle...I was the first guy over at MarinerCentral to call out one of the "10 questions" guys form the media when he called Bedard a wuss and a richard. I also demonstrated that when he was healthy, Beadard threw only 9 of his 28 starts less than 100 pitches and in 6 starts he threw more than 110. LOL
So yeah...I think Bedard is less willing to pitch on loser teams and more willing to pitch when it matters...and yeah, I think Seattle's press was being juvenile and unfair in their attacks on him.
I would also agree that if Bedard can do his thing this well all year, he might come out the best pitching in the AL (maybe all of baseball) and that Felix hasn't maxed out his potential yet. :)

:daps: :- )

Doc: "I’m not sure Erik

Doc: "I’m not sure Erik Bedard isn’t the best pitcher in baseball"
Sandy: "I am. He is."
At this point, I think "if healthy", Bedard is better than Santana. The combination of stuff and knowing how to use it puts him ahead of any other hurler in the game today, IMHO.
I also think that he adjusts his game to get the most out of his talent based on the spate of variables around him - primarily, how good is his defense. With a good defense, he gets more aggressive, which RAISES his K-rate, lowers his walk rate, but costs him a couple of extra dingers. With a bad defense, he nibbles a bit more, lowering his K-rate, raising his walk rate, but saving some HRs.
I also think the 'fragile' tag is reasonable. Not that he's a "wuss" for throwing only 100, but that his game requires him to be on the very edge of what his body can take, so he's regularly at risk of tweaking something.
I also think that if he doesn't figure out a slightly better balance for pushing himself, his career could crumble. On the other hand, if he figures out a slightly more efficient effort/output mixture, he could be dominanting for another 10 years. The line between Pedro and Unit for Beddard is razor thin. Thus far, he's been more Pedro, but I am not convinced he cannot move in the direction of Unit if things break right for him.

Preach it brother! There's a

Preach it brother!
There's a reason, some 10 years back, that the term "Silentpadna" came to be. I know you remember it.
I have been the. only. one. in my circle of friends that I talk to outside the net that has been 100% in favor of the Bedard trade since day 1. In hindsight, I would still do it again.
It's not about what you may perceive as a window of opportunity for the pennant. It's about your window of opportunity to get in on a Cy Young caliber pitcher - pennant windows can be (obviously not always) the result of the window of opportunity to pull these kinds of guys in. You pass on Bedard then, when is your next opportunity to do it? How do you know your offer will be the one taken when one is available?
When he's right, he's a joy to watch. I have been drafting (or buying) him in every fantasy league I've been able to since '04.

We need to extend Bedard. I

We need to extend Bedard. I don't really care what it costs (because I doubt it's going to cost all that much given his upside potential...I think he'd sign for 4/60)...you accept the possible injuries if it gives four more shots at having the world class 1-2 punch we need.

Since 2004! no kidding

Since 2004! no kidding Russ?
So he was a longtime fave before he hit the big time?
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BTW, where are you as to his personality, in general?