HQ 16-35: RICH POYTHRESS, 1B - Crunch

SSI Crunch:  SSI always thought it was too bad that Bucky Jacobsen ate himself out of a career; I'd have liked to have seen whether he might not have had a couple of 90-RBI seasons, if healthy.

I am partial to these WWF Hulk Hogans who move easily, who are light on their feet and who sport those hilariously-compact routes to the pitch.  Bucky Jacobsen was able to stay very compact to the ball and still drive it hard .... of course, McGwire is the reductio ad absurdum here.

But rest assured that Poythress is in the same category.

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Even the complaints about his footwork and speed seem superficial:  check out his NFL TE work on this leaping catch.  Check the agility as it relates to his body weight.  See the quick little double-step and how he gets off the ground quickly?

Poythress moves like a young McGwire, not like a young Fielder -- he moves easily, comfortably.  And the man played 3B in college.  Reports of his defensive death may be greatly exaggerated.

The body control is a BIG factor on this kind of player.  We remember Bill James being sold on Frank Thomas, in large part, because Thomas was light on his feet.

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Dr's Prognosis:  If Rich Poythress is going to be a cleanup hitter in the big leagues, I'll want to see him prove it this year, in the high minors.  If he's slugging .500+ at the break in AA/AAA baseball, watch out for this guy and watch out big.

Couldn't disagree more with HQ's characterization 'lacks trigger and load in his swing.'  I see his swing as a ticket to simplifying the game and wreaking havoc, and the saber results do not contradict.

Was prepared to write this amigo up as a Bryan LaHair, but no can do.  Eyes slideways on Rich Poythress.  

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Thumbs Up / Down:  Two thumbs up, with gusto.  His 2011 is a pivot year, in my book.  Poor year, he's Bucky II, in a good way.  Big year, he's got a great shot at pulling an Adam Dunn.

Of all the hitters we plowed through in the 16-35 section, Poythress was the most pleasant surprise.  Him and Choi.

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Cheerio,

Dr D

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Comments

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I'm a Poythress fan - lot of great things said about him prior to the draft, and he's starting to live up to them. If he was in Boston or New York, people would be demanding Top 100 recognition for him.
There's a bit of a power outage in the post-steroids era, and I've noticed teams seem to be moving away from the illusion that a .250/.375/.550 line indicates a selfish player who needs to be punished. I like Poythress's chances of getting an early opportunity more than the Buckys and Custs of the past.

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Though I do like him.  He and Chavez are pretty even for me right now, since both are competing for LF/DH spots if Smoak is what we pray he is and locks down 1B for the next decade.
I just don't think Poythress walks enough to be compared to the Dunns and Big Hurts of the world.
Still, I do think he's got some Greg Vaughn in him, and I wouldn't turn down that by ANY means.  I could very much see a .260/.340/.500 hitter out of Poythress.  That puts him right in line with Vaughn and some other huge guy named Sexson as a dangerous right-handed power bat that's probably somewhere short of elite (especially in Greg's case).
If Rich can keep up the 2nd half of his Cal League season, anyway.
AA is the test for both him and Chavez:  Who actually learned something and who just took advantage of the high-offense Cal League?
Currently I have Chavez ahead by a nose in that race, but Poythress is stayin' with him.  Coming out of college they said he had one tool: Power.  His bat was too slow (Olerud had the slowest batspeed on his Toronto teams, btw, for all the batspeed-trumps-all afficianados out there), his eye wasn't great (holding at .5 with an acceptable K rate so far), he wasn't a good athlete (though he did play some 3B in college) and being that big with a huge strikezone he'd never hit for average.
It was all gonna come down to power, and a lot of folks didn't think he had enough to overcome the other "issues."
He has a better swing for keeping average than a lot of sluggers, IMO, and he's a big enough guy to drive it out anywhere.  If he keeps his average higher then his projection goes way up.  If not, I'd be satisfied with "just" a Greg Vaughn type of hitter.
If the power doesn't come through outside of the Cal League then he looks like Tui and Carp have thus far: corner players without corner power who get attacked by pitchers who have no fear of consequences.
I'm looking very much forward to AA this year as the 3 impressive bats from the Cal League (Poythress, Chavez and Seager) hit AA at the same time and look to make a name for themselves.
If Nick Franklin winds up there as well, even better.
~G

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Been watching poythress for years. Went to almost all uga baseball during his time there. He is one of the best ive
ever seen. Thought you might also like to know that poythress has a sec gold glove for defense. Don't know really why it's said he lacks defense. Ask anyone who has ever actually watched him play and they will tell you he is as solid as it gets ay first. He did play some 3b and was average there but he didn't play it enough to better than average. Uga didn't want him off first bc he made so many plays and saved them uncountable base runners. I love the guy. He has a blue collar work ethic and always surprises those who under estimates him. He may not be a 5 tool player but he makes that up in his approach and his thinking. He will never be fast but he is surprisingly quick on defense. He's just one of those guys who you end up loving bc he doesn't come with all the hype. He just proves himself and does it in a understated manner. Not a guy with a ego just a good guy. I hope he makes it in Seattle but if not there I just know he'll make it somewhere. He only played twenty some games in AA after being drafted out of college. If you look at ackley his numbers didn't look decent until after playing almost an entire season so I think poythress would have gotten much better had he played at that level for any length of time. I think having ackley and poythress in the majors would be great for the mariners along with Seager. It should be interesting to watch!

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