On how F-Gutz's speed score compares to his defense? Are you still taking the position that a guy who is fast, but not a track star can not possibly be a plus plus defender in CF? Is your contention still that Gutz is merely good in the field or have you been convinced yet that he is great? legitimatly best CF in the league (mlb) good, I mean.
=== F-Goot Once More ===
:- ) You can't stop Taro, you can only hope to contain him. Comments threads with the daily tug-on-the-shirt as to whether I think Gutierrez is great. LOL.
Again: ... if Gutierrez can hit for a 110 OPS+, give or take, then considering that he plays in the middle of the field, and considering he's considerably BTA at that position, then he's a minor star. No argument.
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His BABIP is .335 this year; his eye ratio is still bad; in Safeco he looks like warning-track power to me; and he's mediocre at best on the basepaths. Don't try to sell me a lousy batting eye without plus power.
Although Gutierrez is making progress -- as you expect from a 26-year-old -- I don't expect him to become anything more than Mike Cameron at the plate.
Now, I could be wrong. Franklin Gutierrez has a wonderful batting stroke, with outstanding torque, and that has translated into some mortar-shot HR's. There is some unlikely chance that he'll hit 30 homers some year, and with a .280 AVG and fair walks, that does become a plus offensive contributor.
Cammy did that, hit 25-30 home runs several times, and considering he stole 30 bases also, Cammy was a plus contributor with the bat. (And he wasn't Carlos Beltran or Jim Edmonds, either.)
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Gutierrez has established himself as an ML regular, and given his plus defense in CF and his contributions at the plate he looks like he's established himself as an average-solid player AT MINIMUM.
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Looking at the biggest Seattle blog today for the first time in a month or two, I notice that Gutierrez has (predictably) become a political football for the entire all-smart-guys-think-defense-first crusade. Not wanting to get wrapped around the axle in negatives, I'm going to soft-pedal this one.
Gutierrez seems very popular both with the married-to-defense crowd, and also with the not-married-to-defense crowd (including you, Taro). That's great.
I'm not buying this whole "Curtis Granderson and Franklin Gutierrez and Mike Cameron are the most underrated All-Stars in baseball" horse-hockey. But if Gutierrez jells as Mike Cameron, I've got no complaints, even RH in Safeco. :- )
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=== Russell the Muscle ===
451 feet on Thursday, they said. It is absolutely hilarious to watch Branyan lower the chin, dip the back elbow and just POOUUUNNNND the baseball as though he were a Pay-n-Pak slo-pitch player. Every time you see it, it gets funnier.
Thursday on the slo-mo, the Yankees' pitcher didn't even turn to watch the ball; he just looked over to 1B with a huge grin on his face like it was funny to see a batter hit the ball with as much fury as Branyan did. Then you stopped the DVR on the Yankee SS and 2B, and I kid you not, they were looking STRAIGHT UP OVER THEIR HEADS like they were watching a low-flying airplane pass directly overhead.
And if you don't get Seattle TV, they're counting the hang time now like punts. Blowers cracked me up on a slo-mo replay the other day: he was genuinely bewildered, "It almost looks like he hits this ball straight up in the air?!" as though in his 20 years of pro baseball he'd never seen a hitter like Branyan.
Branyan isn't hitting 400-foot homers once in a while. He is getting 6-7 seconds hang time EVERY. BLASTED. HOME. RUN.
Junior never hit the ball so consistently far. Buhner never hit them nearly so far on an every-time basis. I don't remember MARK MCGWIRE going 425 feet every blinkin' time he squared one up.
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It was a revelation when McCracken pointed out that AVG, BABIP, and most things offensively .... they relate in large degree to the very simple act of not striking out.
Right now, we're beginning to realize that HR power relates in very large degree to the very simple question of how FAR you hit the ball when you connect. (Though Adrian Beltre hit 25 home runs last year, he did not hit them far, and this year HBT predicted his offense for a big tank. He left hitting .259/.291/.374, and his 77 OPS+ compares unfavorably to Willie Bloomquist's lifetime OPS+ of 75.)
If you can predict future HR productivity by watching the distance that a batter is getting -- and I suspect you can -- I've got five words for AL pitchers on Russell Branyan's next three-four years.
Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid,
Jeff
Comments
Whatever Gutierrez' speed score -- and I doubt it's very good by CF standards; e.g. he has 5 SB's and 4 CS's -- I know for a fact that he is much slower than Curtis Granderson and B.J. Upton.
I think that Gutierrez is a 65 defender -- between "plus" and "plus-plus" -- who is benefitting hugely from his context.
Mike Cameron explicitly stated that "the ball hangs in the air" in CF in Safeco. I didn't originate that belief; the man playing there did. It is what I see from the third deck, night in and night out. I think CF in Safeco adds 2-3 strides for the defender.
I do think F-Gut is a plus glove, easily. He'd be a BTA defender in any park.
I would be shocked if a CF with his mediocre footspeed could be "great," but do think that a CF CAN use instincts and quickness to be VERY GOOD despite lack of speed.
I am eagerly awaiting comments on Langerhans. He is just flat out DESTROYING the baseball since joining the Ms...and oh BTW...he's left handed, has decent power, a solid eye for the strikezone, good baserunning (not great but solid), and good D in the corners...
I am very impressed...and this may be yet another GREAT call by Zduriencik, to go with Gutierrez, Aardsma and Branyan.
How is his eye "lousy"? Its league average.
His contact percentage? League average.
Patience? Above league-average.
Power? A 'tick' below league-average.
Infield Hit%? Well above league-average.
The guy screams league average hitter at the plate, NOT lousy. I also believe he has power upside at the plate to turn into a consistently above league-average hitter although hes yet to tap into that. Yes his BABIP is high, but being a spray hitter with good speed his BABIP is GOING to be high. With a career .319 BABIP and a 20.4 LD% this year (compared to 18.1% career), I wouldn't write it off as a fluke in this case.