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Counter-COUNTER Point

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Don't mind my incoherency.  I'm still boggling about Spec getting 1,000 views in a day...

  • His first day up (Google page rank = -1)
  • With no links other than one, here, not in a sidebar, buried in a post (will correct shortly)
  • While writing in the frozen tundra of Seattle October
  • While writing about the Seattle Mariners
  • While writing about guys who probably will never be Seattle Mariners

I'm still geekin' out about it.  You guys rock.  I gotta figure out how to get an account that allows me to comment, though... ... what were we talking about?  Ellsbury!  Now there's an issue that splits the congregation right down the middle.

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CCP, Rick The Biology Editor:  Ellsbury and Choo would be exciting.  What wouldn't be as exciting, would be facing any 2014 starter who throws from the left side.  Never mind having to deal with any Charlie Furbushes.

CCCP:  No, CCCP doesn't mean "Soviet Union" any more.  And we'd heard that if you put a physicist, a chemist, and a biologist in the same faculty lounge, the biologist is the dumbest.  No word about where bloggers, or communists, would sit on those couches.  No snide anti-censorship implication, whatosoever, is implied by pairing those last two groups in one sentence.

This is a legit concern, bottom line.  Once again, we will stipulate that Giancarlo Stanton is much preferable.  As is Matt Kemp, who tatoo's lefties to the tune of a .342/.405/.571 lifetime rampage.

Point, Counterpoint on Ellsbury (contract, defense)

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POINT:  6/$120M for Jacoby Ellsbury?  You're talking a Boras client here, you know.  There will be a reason the Red Sox are letting him go.

COUNTERPOINT:  Michael Bourn, last winter, was coming off a 6.2 WAR season at Ellsbury's age now.  He had to settle for 4/$48.

GM's are totally hip to the idea of "soft WAR."  They don't give leadoff hitters the same jack, for 6 WAR, that they give to a 6-WAR guy who gets all his runs from the batter's box.  And they shouldn't.

Jack Zduriencik seems to have emphasized that he's not going more than 4 years for anybody not named Fielder (or Stanton).  Even Hamilton, they drew the line at 4 years and two (?!) vesting years.

DR's R/X:  This one, we all agree with Point.  If the market is strong for Ellsbury, the Mariners should bow out.  

Point, CounterPoint, Point-Pourri

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POINT:  Ellsbury has benefitted from playing at Fenway.  Safeco would eat him up.

COUNTERPOINT:  Actually, Fenway doesn't help lefties that much, and Ellsbury's HR splits are like 32-33 home and road.  

DR's R/X:  His home splits look like pure noise to me.  Making a long story short:  I wouldn't worry about this one.  If you want to worry, see the next section.

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POINT:   The guy is injury-prone.  He's Franklin Gutierrez waiting to happen.  (This is the view of my man Geoff Baker.)

COUNTERPOINT:  His defenders will tell you that "his entire injury history consists of having Adrian Beltre run him over once, and having a second baseman jump on his shoulder."

DR's R/X:  Nada.  This is a fragile player.  (Though would be interested in G's, and others', take here.)

Spectator on Aaron Barbosa - the Template

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Q.  Hey, I like Jim's articles better than yours.  People check in because of the lead author's legendary name which is the stuff of legend, but atually stay because of the writings of everybody OTHER than him.  What's up with that?

A.  Hey, it works for every other blog in Seattle.  Why reinvent the wheel?

Kidding!  

Aside from Spec being more interested in the minors than most, and aside from his being a very acute fellow, and aside from his all-around greatness ... he has a secret.  

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Q.  That being?

A.  He stays laser-focused on the strike zone.  

Then, he comes up with 9,000 ways to organize stats around that.  Strike zone always at the center.  You're going to see things that others don't, if you keep noodling around that way.  Barbosa being a neat example...

As the founding father put it, "Baseball is about the strike zone."  It's why Spec was first to the Aaron Barbosa rookie-card trough (see his sparkling article here).  Others will feed later, but they're already far too late.  Spec will proudly wear the Barbosa jersey to the 2018 ALCS.  Anybody else daring to do so will be laughed out of town.

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Top Ten Things Howard Lincoln Could Have Said to Seem Even More Out of Touch

 

I don't usually participate in piling on the Front Office, but the Howard Lincoln interview was filled with so much comedy gold, how can you resist?

 

Top Ten Things Howard Lincoln Could Have Said to Seem Even More Out of Touch

 

10.  "Safeco Field has AWESOME ushers!  Love those ushers.  And the guys who roll out the tarp!  Bud Selig tells me every year how we just dominate at that."

On the other hand, I think Wedge is wrong on the specifics

 

Yes, it's true that Eric Wedge ripped a big chunk of the lid off of the Pandora's Box within which lies the realm of the Mariners brass.

And, combined with the timing of Geoff Baker leaving the Mariners beat, and the end of another frustrating season, among other things, all manner of passion was unleashed.

Not a bad thing.

But hold the phone just a minute.

Though there's nothing wrong with a little "Front Office = Bad; Those fighting Front Office = Good" it seems like maybe a little perspective is lost.

POTD Curtis Granderson - the PRO side

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Keep the Pitchers

Does Dr. D like the look of this plan?  Sure.  We all want to keep the prospects.  If you can upgrade the offense by enough this way -- free agency, or lesser trades, or evolution of the kids -- that's the preferred macro strategy with me.

What's good about the Granderson Plan, and all of its variations, such as the Choo plan, the Pence plan, and so forth?  Everything that we lined up in the previous article.  Granderson and Choo are better players than Nick Swisher is, and Pence may be as good.

There's a simple and obvious reason to go for Choo or Granderson instead of Stanton.  By the All-Star Break of 2014, Taijuan Walker and James Paxton are liable to be worth more than Stanton by themselves.  You avoid any risk of that occurring.

Of course, if you can acquire Stanton without shedding Taijuan, K-Pax or Zunino, then obviously the Straw That Stirs Maneuver rises to the top of the strategy list.

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Granderson's UPside

POTD Curtis Granderson - the CON side

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Swisher Baseline

We started all this by saying, If you liked 7/$105MM for Nick Swisher, you'll love any deal this winter for Curtis Granderson.

SSI didn't like even 4/$56MM for Swisher, and it liked 7/$105MM even less.  So if Dr. D thought the very first premise was totally false, what is it going to think about this whole conclusion?

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WAR Paradigm

In this article, Fangraphs came very close to an epiphany about WAR heroes who aren't great hitters.  (They don't sustain their WAR heroism.)

Per WAR, Curtis Granderson looks great: 

  • He plays CF, which is a 1.0 to 2.0 WAR "position bonus" ... +10 runs vs RF, +20 vs DH 
  • He generally has played it well - +23 runs bonus over his career
  • He runs the bases (like Chone Figgins did) -- another 0.5 WAR per year

So you look at Granderson's 25 WAR over the five years from 2008-12, and you go wow.  A 5-WAR player.  He hits 40 homers, too.  Everybody loves him, right?

SSI cautions that the same things that happened to Chone Figgins -- WAR erosion in several areas at once -- could happen imminently to Granderson.  

POTD Curtis Granderson - the Grok

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Who Is Curtis Granderson?  How do you sift through these piles of variables and pick out the right ones?

 

I mean, everybody loves him, right?  Not Ron Shandler.  Before 2013 -- that is, when Granderson was a hot property -- Shandler issued a red flag on Granderson.

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"Another 40 homers, but he's at a crossroads now.  Consistent contact% erosion has put him in hacker territory.  

2011 BABIP looks like an outlier, and even a .250 AVG won't come easy.  

Power is elite, but friendly park padded his HR totals.  

Stolen bases are more a product of green light than skill.  Don't overpay."

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In this specific case, I think that Shandler has put his finger on the two key things here:  1) Granderson has elite power (175-198 PX!!) and (2) he has morphed into a hitter who spends his season stalking home runs, at major detriment to his batting average and OBP.

The Power Index (PX) for Granderson is absurdly high and should not be minimized.   When you are talking 180, 190 PX, that is higher than any major league player other than Giancarlo Stanton (at 220).  Granderson's PX has been higher than Josh Hamilton, higher than Adam Dunn, higher than anybody other than Stanton.

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Home Park Effect

Lick Observatory, Mount Hamilton

Located on Mount Hamilton, just east of San Jose, is the Lick Observatory.  For couples that enjoy learning new things together and have an appreciation for the stars, this can be a great way to spend a day or night.  The observatory is open to the public every afternoon or you can attend one of their special events, such as the Music of the Spheres Concert Series, which presents music, stargazing and talks from the experts, or the Friday Night Visitors Program, where you can gaze and learn more about the universe from those that

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