Chat: 9/7/15 1:32am

Chat: 9/7/15 1:32am

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OBF's picture
OBF
10/5/15 9:33am

<p>Opps, Darn, forgot to login... The Anon just below is me... As for our own free agents: </p>
<p>I would sign Guti to a nice 2 year contract, and start discussing how taxing CF would be for him on the days he plays... I mean it cant be that much harder than a corner spot, I guess the real question is can he still be a gold glover out there... I bet he would love to try! Guti / Miller would be a pretty killer platoon!</p>
<p>I would offer Kuma QO, but hope to reach a 3 year, team friendly deal, but Kuma is not a sign at all cost player for me... In fact if we sign Cuteo or someone else of that caliber I would be willing to just let him walk and take the comp pick.</p>
<p>Lets Go DiPoTo!</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/5/15 9:28am

<p>OK! Lets kick off the offseason... Here are the two guys I would target HEAVILY in Free Agency... </p>
<p>Cuteo -- Coming of a little bit of a down year, all the attention will be on Price and Greinke, plus there is the Dominican Power Connection. Sneak in and get this guy EARLY</p>
<p>Wieters -- It's time for the Mariners to finally have a real catcher again! Maybe Edgar blows magic pixie dust and SUnino learns to hit... fine he can back up Weiters for a while and the assume the full time role when Wieters has to go to 1b like all catchers eventually have to... You could dumpster dive and hope for bounce back years from guys like Ianetta (I would be ok with this) or Navarro (Meh) or Avilla (blech), but it's not like any of those guys will be cheap... if we want to go cheap just stick with Zuni...</p>
<p>Yep that would be expensive... BUT we have SO MANY of the right pieces in place, NOW is the time to spend! Git r Dun Dipoto!</p>

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DaddyO's picture
10/5/15 9:21am

<p>I fear you are right Matt, but I hope you are wrong. Dunno if Gar has enough magic up his sleeve to restore Zunino's batting mind. If the kid could hit .230, get on base at a .290 clip, and pop 25+ bombs he'd be a tremendous asset.</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/5/15 8:58am

<p>Just like sweeping the A's before the Strasburg draft to lose the #1 pick... Way to go M's... Pyrrhic would be proud...</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/5/15 8:57am

<p>None. He was awful on opening day this year. Having played, to that point, 1 game. He's a terrible hitter. Has the talent to be a good one, but is hopelessly, lost and confused. Our catcher on opening day 2016 must not be Zunino.</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/5/15 8:53am

<p>In thinking about who our catcher is next year, how many of Zunino's hitting troubles improve if he plays 110 games?</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/5/15 5:46am

<p>February sometime...might as well be an eternity from now</p>

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gnatto's picture
10/5/15 3:49am

<p>When do pitchers and catchers report again?</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/4/15 8:55pm

<p>can't even lose right...classic Mariners.</p>

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IcebreakerX's picture
10/4/15 8:37pm

<p>Eppler picked for Angels GM.</p>

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GLS's picture
GLS
10/4/15 8:07pm

<p>I don't really care if the pick is #10 or #11. I'm annoyed the pick isn't protected though.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/4/15 6:49pm

<p>ah crud.</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/4/15 5:50pm

<p>Based on last years results in the event of a tie.</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/4/15 5:46pm

<p>Recent, not "events"</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/4/15 5:46pm

<p>Rick here: DaddyO, I think you nailed it in your event comments.I am looking forward to seeing what DiPoto does with all this material. Excited, actually.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/4/15 5:02pm

<p>We're tied with the White Sox...why would they necessarily get the 10th pick?</p>

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anonymous (not verified)
10/4/15 4:04pm

<p>Damn. There goes the protected pick. Nice job M's, all you had to do was lose one more game.</p>

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MtGrizzly's picture
10/4/15 9:28am

<p>Larry Stone has a slew of great quotes from Dipoto. On Edgar: "As I said on the press-conference day, I’m glass half full. Edgar Martinez has done a fantastic job. Stud career. The way he talks about a player is very comforting to me. The way he walks through how you hit, how you score runs, makes sense to me. While the glass is half full with most, with Edgar, it’s pretty full.”</p>

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jemanji's picture
10/3/15 5:45pm

<p>Thanks Grizzly. Those 4 themes will prob'ly be the basis for the next sabr post. :: daps ::</p>

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moethedog's picture
10/3/15 3:56pm

<p>Matt, in my Prom Date thread, I wondered aloud/queried about a Deej for Pompey swap. Funny you mentioned swapping out under-performing assets.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/3/15 11:35am

<p>IOW...he tore apart Z's roster and Mather, by proxy, for not firing Z earlier. :) Good for him.</p>

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MtGrizzly's picture
10/3/15 11:06am

<p>In other words, a damning critique of the job Zduriencik did.</p>

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MtGrizzly's picture
10/3/15 11:05am

<p>I somehow missed this from the Times. Provides a bit more context to Jerry's thinking on the org:</p>
<p>When Dipoto interviewed with Mather, he gave a frank and thorough assessment of the team, good and bad.</p>
<p>“Some of it was hard to hear,” Mather said.</p>
<p>Some of those assessments were the lack of depth of the 25- and 40-man roster, minimal athleticism in the organization as a whole, far too many strikeouts at the big-league level and defense not commensurate to playing in spacious Safeco Field.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/3/15 5:28am

<p>GLS...we have guys that other clubs value...just because most of them did poorly in 2015 doesn't mean some of them can't be flipping for other struggling prospects that have tools DiPoto likes.</p>

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GLS's picture
GLS
10/2/15 9:31pm

<p>What's to trade?</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/2/15 5:33pm

<p>New GMs love to trade old GMs' prospects. Expect some wheeling and dealing.</p>

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MtGrizzly's picture
10/2/15 2:56pm

<p>CF and C are positions of scarcity in the game right now. Rough break for the M's, as those are two positions of need for the club. This off season will be flush with pitching, though, which is good considering that's what Dipoto has ID'd as the primary concern. It would sure be nice to pencil in Paxton, Iwakuma and Elias for 180-200 innings each in 2016 but that's probably suicide from a roster building perspective. So Iwakuma, one more SP, at least one excellent reliever and at least one OF'r. That's an expensive off season, either in $$$ or prospects. Or both.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/2/15 12:16pm

<p>but then...Andy Van Slyke converted Ackley from -5 to +15 in the corner position in one ST...so...I suppose it is possible that some intensive work could ease my concerns quickly. I just would not go into 2016 with Miller as the only serious CF candidate.</p>

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SABR Matt's picture
10/2/15 12:14pm

<p>I think that, if you do, you're punting 2016. He is a -20 run CF right now if he plays full time...his route running is Lastings Milledge bad.</p>

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GLS's picture
GLS
10/2/15 12:04pm

<p>CF is such a difficult position to fill, I thought then (last offseason) and still do that it makes a ton of sense to give Miller some time there. Even if the first year is an adventure for him, the guy has enough speed and enough of an arm to develop into a very capable defensive presence out there.</p>

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