POTD Hong-Chih Kuo

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Q.  What is Kuo's early background?

A.  Kuo was born in Taiwan and raised there until about age 17, I believe, and was signed by the Dodgers because he was a left hand pitcher who threw gassssss.  Kuo and Chien-Ming Wang are the two significant Chinese players (pitchers) in MLB.

Anyway, if Kuo saved 30 games I'd probably try to hack the statistics onto the PRC internet, even under pain of assassination attempts.

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Q.  Can he pitch?

A.  When his arm is frisky and the moon is full, you could argue this man for best reliever in either hemisphere.  Seriously.

This video will give you a feel for it.  The first pitch clocks 96, it looks 101, and the batters' results against it read 105 mph.  His good fastball is always that way.  He's just hilarious to watch, like Byung-Hyun Kim was for a couple of years.

He comes short-arm, hides the ball, gets some sort of tremendous spin and life on it and .... even right at the knees, the batters just can't see it.  They swing through fastballs thrown right at their bats.

His slider falls off the table too, gets one garbage swing after another.  That was Adrian Gonzalez in the video, third pitch, running screaming into the night away from a Kuo slider.

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Q.  Has the stuff translated to elite, closer-like results?

A.  If he's healthy, he's the Mariners' best reliever, end of story.

He's been hurt a lot, like Chris Snelling "a lot," but check his two relatively healthy seasons:

Year IP K:BB HR
2008 80 96:21 4
2010 60 73:18 1

In 2010, left hand batters had 69 attempts against him, going .095/.159/.111.  You are talking the Randy Johnson experience here.  Okay, Aroldis Chapman these days.  It's not much of an exaggeration to compare Kuo's results to Chapman's, except that a healthy Kuo throws strikes.

Visualize 63 at-bats, 28 strikeouts, a handful of singles, all year by lefties.  That was 2010.  Kuo's great period, but when his arm is okay, left-hand batters fear him like spiders.  

In 2008 and 2010, Kuo racked up 2.2 WAR out of the pen.  That's like 3.5 from the rotation, because those are leveraged innings.

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Q.  What's with the walks in 2011?

A.  He was hurting, of course.  You might remember Norm Charlton walking a bunch of guys right before his elbow tendon snapped.

It's not a sabermetric issue.  It's a pain issue.

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Q.  Why would the M's be first in line at this guy?

A.  His arthroscopic surgery was just a few months ago, "cleaned up some loose bodies" and it's a question of who will give him $1M (or ??) for the dice roll.

Funny thing.  You'd have thought that Iwakuma would get a lot more, but somehow the M's talked to him sweet and he wound up here because the M's were such nice guys.  If the M's wound up with Kuo, it would be more of the same:  the M's Asian inside track paying off again.

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Q.  Dr's prognosis?

A.  From our standpoint as fans, we got no downside here.  It's the M's who have to grind their teeth a little and budget the $750k, or whatever it is.

When Kuo is right, he's like a Strat-O-Matic card with nothing but outs on it - a Willy Wonka Gold Card to skip the inning once per series.  Big fun.  What's not to like?

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I'd like to see a simulation on that.  Two equal teams, 3-game series, except one team gets to "smart bomb" exactly one defensive inning of its choosing, including an inning which had started with the first couple guys getting on base.  

I wonder what its winning % would be?  A lot higher than the WAR difference would predict, I'll tell ya that.  Such a simulation would test the limits of WAR's relation to the real world.

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Kuo has been hurt a lot, yeah, but he's had two huge RP seasons in the last four.  Let's see 3-for-5, my man.

BABVA,

Dr D

Comments

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ghost's picture

Kuo is a beast when healthy...and the Mariners get players off the field when they're not healthy.  So...there aren't any risks to the games on the field IMHO...not ones that matter.  If you get lucky and he's fresh and bone-spur free (and in a good state of mind...he suffered from anxiety last year and needed a shrink and pills)...suddenly we have two nasty lefty-killers in our bullpen and a much better shot to match-up well against the big clubs in tight ballgames.
A bullpen of League/Kuo/Wilhelmson/Sherrill/Kelley/Delabar/pick-a-swing-man will blow up the AL if they're all right.

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tjm's picture

The guy has had a ton of injuries, beginning with TJ before he ever threw a pitch in the majors. Last year, it was, indeed, more his head than his arm. He had two long stretches where he was out because he was scared to death to pitch. Me, too, but I threw 84 with a minus-minus breaking ball.
I can't imagine what it might take to make an admission of that fear among the manly men of the MLB, but he did it. So, in addition to his pure stuff - and it really is funhouse quality - you know going in that despite being scared the guy is in some fundamental sense fearless. He's a really big guy and you can imagine he was always the biggest, strongest kid on his block, so maybe the self-assurance came with the package.
If he can pitch, hitters are completely helpless against him. He's the kind of guy other pitchers stop what they're doing to watch him throw bullpens. This is a great no-risk gamble.

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Best article on Kuo's anxiety problem.
Two seasons ago he missed nearly three months with a similar condition that the Dodgers initially called elbow problems.
They were understandably trying to protect his privacy in a sensitive matter for which the macho baseball culture has little patience.
This time there is no hiding the problem, and thus there will be no hiding his recovery, which will take place under the same sorts of pressure that caused this affliction in the first place.
After his shaky first outing Thursday while starting against the Visalia Rawhide, Kuo was pleasant, but unsettled, as if still trying to find answers where there are few.
When I asked if he had spoken to any player who had this affliction, he said, "Yeah, I talked to myself, I had it."

When he's on, he's unstoppable.  When his head's not right...well, it's kinda like Brad Lidge when he goes off his rocker.  Ankiel was the worst example of acknowledged anxiety issues destroying a pitcher that I can think of.  Most people don't acknowledge that anxiety is the issue. 
I hope he's gotten more help than just talking to himself (that shrink and pills idea isn't a bad one to get him back on his feet).  I'd love to see his arm and head both 100% on target for the same goal, because when he's on, he is devastating.  Would YOU want to see Kuo-Wilhelmsen-Sherrill-League all in a row heading to the end of the game?
That could be a fun bullpen to watch work early in the year.
But Kuo has to rein in his wayward emotions first.  Fingers crossed, because he could be a big boon to us.
~G

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ghost's picture

...the Mariners signed Shawn Camp. My initial response was EEEEEEWWWWW...but...I suppose he provides stoploss in case Kuo or Sherrill doesn't work out...or in case we can't get innings out of Kelley or Wilhelmson or Delabar. LOL

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wily mo's picture

and i'm not even from taiwan or anything. 
check out this video of him hitting the last of back-to-back-to-back home runs against the mets a few years ago when he was still starting.
http://youtu.be/osIksOujt38
take particular note of the awesome bat flip. later in interviews he said it was unintentional, just kind of happened.
was going to bring up the anxiety thing but got down to the comments and you guys already have it covered.
i used to post on detectovision, btw. i'd get into occasional arguments with sabrmatt about global warming, that kind of thing. still lurk but haven't been talking
 

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