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Evaluations part 2

Is "wait and see" a valid process step, or merely cowardice?

May 21, 2013

Evaluations, 2013 Front Office

let's discuss results vs. process, and expected behavior

May 21, 2013

Jesus Montero, C (8)

moethedog: On the ball 4 days 11 hours ago

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SABR Matt: I agree with Stone that Montero and Ackley need to clear their heads in AAA...and I like the idea of looking at Franklin and Triunfel. I am not sure Bonderman will help much, but it's worth a shot...he's an unknown whereas Harang is a known. And I'd be looking to land a thumper for the OF at the trade deadline not for 2013 but to build around.42 min 32 sec ago

phxterry: So SABR Matt - what's your prescription for the M's right now?1 hour 6 min ago

phxterry: correction: "Smoak's lower OPS against LHPs."1 hour 22 min ago

phxterry: Mal, appreciate your addressing my question why Wedgie would start Smoak > Montero against a LHP despite Smoak's lower OPS against RHPs. Unfortunately, Smoak was 0-4 with 3 K's and stranded 5 baserunners, but Montero might have done worse. So do you see any situation now when Wedgie should play Montero, other than the 2 days a week when Montero, who has been reduced to back-up catcher, gives Shoppach some rest? If so, what would those situations be?1 hour 24 min ago

Bat571: actually, Andino is somewhat higher than .474; I missed something somewhere - but the idea remains. He's not getting better, he's been between .450 and.500 for a month or so. Ryan has started climbing out of the septic tank and has come from below .400 to where he is now in the last two weeks. And though he has muffed a few plays recently, he's still BY FAR the better glove.1 hour 53 min ago

SABR Matt: *sigh*...I miss being competitive into September................1 hour 58 min ago

Bat571: Of note, looks like Ryan, with his double, is now at .473 OPS, while Andino is at .474. Can we really afford both, when only one is a superior glove? Triunfel and/or Franklin, please. Ryan can play all 3 IF glove positions, so losing Andino, now that the compressed sked and road trips are behind us for now, is not that much of a loss in flexibility, if either Carlos or Nick replaces him.2 hours 8 min ago

phxterry: Serious question: M's now down 0-7; let's assume they lose and record is 20-27, with Wildcard playoff hopes essentially dead. Why wouldn't the M's clear the roster of 1-year older vets unlikely to return next year and bring up young-uns from AAA: 1) Trade Morales 2) Trade or DFA Bay and Rauuuuul 3) DFA Andino 4) Bring up AAA OFers Peguero and Thames 5) Bring up Triunfel & Franklin. Why would you continue to play old vets who won't be on the team next year?2 hours 21 min ago

phxterry: Funny quote of the day from Nathan Bishop at LL, alongside today's lineup; "Jesus Montero is not in the dog house. He is not allowed inside at all. He has to sleep outside in the rain." Seriously, if Wedgie won't play Montero as DH against a LHP, what is the point of having Montero on the big league roster? Maybe he can learn by watching Shoppach. Oh wait, we tried that last year, Montero was supposed to sit and learn by watching that fundamentally sound catcher, Miguel Olivo.2 hours 51 min ago

blissedj: I kid, I kid. Still love the M's but good grief let's get Andino out of here please. I need Franklin playing SS/2B 5 times a week. That won't hurt Ackley or Ryan. Let 'em compete, best 2 win. Do it again next year with Miller. Don't see how Z and Wedge can sit on their hands much longer. Harang and Saunders limping along. So many areas change can be explored!2 hours 59 min ago

MtGrizzly: The bullpen isn't going to make it to the ASB without arms falling off at this rate.3 hours 2 min ago

SABR Matt: wow guys...you're depressing me more than the team is.3 hours 9 min ago

blissedj: "A new day, the same old way", "True to the black and blue", "Ready to Play (but still in Tacoma)", "Donde esta la mojo?", Mariners pitchers adopt "2 outs, so what?"3 hours 10 min ago

phxterry: Wow - Angels have 24 hits and 18 runs in 10.1 innings against M's pitchers.3 hours 15 min ago

phxterry: Mariner Fun Fact: When the M's record was 20-21, ESPN had the chances for the M's making the post-season playoffs at 16%. After 5 straight losses and the record at 20-26, the chances are down to 7%. So it looks as if 2 or 3 more losses will drive that possibility to essentially zero.3 hours 26 min ago

blissedj: Wow, one turn through the rotation to rip the heart right out of the season. Calling Dr. D to surgery.3 hours 30 min ago

malcontent: ...wild CJ Wilson3 hours 33 min ago

malcontent: Smoak has been the hotter hitter, Smoak is the most patient player on the team while Montero might be the most aggressive against an always weeks Colby Lewis.3 hours 36 min ago

SABR Matt: Was just checking to see if there was anything that absolutely HAD to happen...there isn't. It's just Stone wanting the club to take action (as do I...but it's not REQUIRED...it's just logical)3 hours 38 min ago

Bat571: It's also coming from the idea of where do we get a spot for Nick Franklin.3 hours 47 min ago

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