BJOL Org's and Eras Project - the Astros

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Whoever heard of lining up teams by their mascot names alphabetically ... grumble, grumble.  And could swear this is the first time I ever saw James do that.  The one time I cared.  mumble, crumble.

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James' method is to assign each year's team a "strength score," like this one he has on the Astros:

 

 

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

196-

 

 

7.21

6.56

5.97

5.37

5.29

5.01

4.96

6.51

197-

6.79

7.05

8.91

10.18

11.26

10.15

10.17

11.25

10.77

13.34

198-

15.90

17.87

17.00

17.73

17.07

17.67

20.08

18.94

19.30

19.90

199-

18.71

16.96

17.43

18.13

19.06

19.61

19.92

21.32

23.80

25.73

200-

23.81

25.47

25.38

25.49

26.93

29.04

29.49

27.31

27.22

25.30

201-

23.69

20.89

18.28

15.63

14.49

16.52

17.23

 

 

 


All of us -- and by "all of us" I mean SABRMatt, naturally -- could take a yellow pad and make a long list of + and - for this method.  If you have your own laboratory, go to it.  One of the strengths here is that with the gentle "Up cycle, Down cycle" turning points, you've got a lot of reliability.  A lot of data and a macro point of view.  After he has 30 teams, will James get to attaching things to each turning point -- a Top 50 SuperDuperStar or a change of owners or whatever -- those "Seismic Events" will correlate well with franchise health going forward.

Or so it seems to me.

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HOUSTON ASTROS

They had some similarity to the M's:  

  • Juuuuuuust a bit more recent than, say, the Philadelphia A's
  • Way, WAYYYYY underneath New York's radar scope (my own thought)
  • A lot of failure after expansion
  • Some epically poor GM'ing in their first 25 years - Cuellar to the O's for zip, Joe Morgan to the Reds for zip, "donated" John Mayberry to the Royals, etc etc
  • A good taste of success for 10-15 years (late 80's thru early 00's) due to Stars & Scrubs ... Mike Scott, Nolan Ryan, Roy Oswalt, Bagwell and Biggio, etc
  • Another (surprising) valley in 2007-14, being made fun of a lot for weird stuff because they were bad
  • 2015-17 and forward Jose Altuve years

So it's a stimulating comparison to the M's.  Using our own verbiage rather than pull quotes, since talking points themselves aren't copyright territory.  We'll just continually remind you that $3/month isn't even subscription money unless you're putting yourself through college on a Denny's paycheck like some of us did.  Let's take a glance at James' suggestions for the causes of the turning points:

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Era Result Possible Cause
62-68 Colt .45s DOWN (from expansion level!) Terrible Scrubs
69-86 UP (Despite catastrophic trades) XLNT farm system, and draws at scrap heap deck (Jose Cruz, Joaquin Andujar)
87-91 DOWN Stars got old in Gillickian fashion
92-06 UP Bagwell, Biggio, Oswalt, Berkman ... nimbly working talent market for 1-2 year players.  But didn't come up with ENOUGH support impact players
07-14 DOWN All the above players got old togther (see post-Gillick M's)
15-18 and ff UP (BJOL doesn't say anything.  Obviously farm system, and patience with K's, was a plus)

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At first glance we can compare Ken Griffey Jr's arrival in 1989-90 to any of the Astros' three UP cycles.  In fact the 1995-2005 Astros remind us a whale of a lot of the 00's M's.

Cheers,

Dr D

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The Other Billy Zoom's picture

You spell their name  Nippon Ham Fighters, just after ham and eggs and before hand jive.

But the flip continues to flop after the team completed it's last game today, and ...

Ohtani has become Otani once again.

He went 0 for 3 in what many are calling his "final game in Japan".

Either spellilng, I moved him from my "baseball" folder to my "Mariner's" folder on my favorites list.

List, not lisp!

He avoided questions about his future plans today, but ....

ya know ...

I just  hope the Ham Fighters send us a post card soon.

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