Donn Roach (Dr. D = Moron)
from SSI zero to hero in one TV inning pitched

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Q.  So when are you going to stop riffing about March players before you've ever seen them.

A.  If Dr. D ever does it again, STOP HIM.  Next March just go "Have you seen this guy yet?"  ... and of course he'll Pshaw out of it, but still.

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Q.  What's your excuse?

A.  The mainframe grokked only a 1-in-20 chance that Roach's actual pitches would defy his performance.  But that's like when my 20th-level D&D paladin had a save at +6 to avoid disintegration.  2-20, live.  1 in 20, die.  You can guess the dice roll.

If we cannot fail those "roll 2 on a d20 to live" saves, we wither and die :- )  ... hold it.  When we do fail them we die with no wither allowed ... you know.

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Q.  Back to the subject?

A.  We rolled the Rockies tape from Thursday and Roach came in and we smiled and Roach threw a fastball and we went WHAAAAAaaaaat's THAT?  Is he using a real baseball?

Second pitch, he did exactly the same thing:  89 MPH swerveball that dropped straight down like an Allen wrench.  Thrown from over the top no less.  We ran over to fangraphs ... groundball ratio for Roach?  68%.  LOL!  Nice going Dr. D.

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Q.  So you have a 3-strikeout straight up sinkerball pitcher who lives to tell the tale?  How many starters are there in the bigs like that?

A.  At any given time ... one?  Two?   Justin Masterson threw like that.  Chien-Ming Wang.  Can't think of a third guy who had nothing but an Allen-wrench-shaped sinker.  You AARP guys remember Randy Jones of the Padres?

Don't get me wrong.  Not selling Roach as a big league star.  But if he can throw that pitch, he's juuuuuust fine, thank you very much.

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Q.  How does a change curve fit in, as a means to keep the batters honest, in this "one if by land, two if by sea, three if the ball is batted underground" scenario?

A.  In that specific context, it works fine.  Chien-Ming Wang used 70+ MPH pitches to freeze hitters.  They get so dialed in on trying to swing under that dastardly sinker.  Visually, the same thing happened to Roach's victims on Thursday.  It's kind of like a knuckleballer with an 87 MPH fastball he throws twice an inning.

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Q.  Can RELIEVERS make that work?

A.  Chien-Ming Wang woulda been a star as a reliever.  Same with Masterson.  Last year, the RPs with super-high groundball rates and low K's were ... Brad Ziegler, Jake Petricka, Jared Hughes, Ryan Webb ... every blinkin' one of 'em with ERA's like 1.85, 2.28, 3.20 and etc.  Oh!  the 1.85 reminds you of Billy Swift.  Well, it reminds some of us of Billy Swift.

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Q.  Does the F/X back this up?

A.  It showed Roach's average sinker as 4" vertical relative to vacuum, compared to the usual 5" - 8".  But that doesn't do justice to the late break.  From the CF camera it looked like a spitball.  Honestly, I remember Gaylerd Perry's spitter.  The pitch looked like that.  Downhill pitch, medium firm velocity, accelerating in its sink.

The hitters' reactions did zero to contradict this CF impression.  Again, not saying Roach is a star, but can he use 70% groundballs and 0 walks to get through two innings as well as the post-injury Ryan Cook could do it?  Asked and answered.

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Q.  So where's he been?

A.  Maybe camouflaged.  Through injury, late development, labeling, etc.  Or maybe the hesitation on him is legit, and he really will turn out to be a total mediocrity.  :: shrug ::  Dr. D knows which way he's leaning, after seeing that diveball.

Roach got a couple of those sinkers up, later, and the batters LIESURELY swatted them deeeep into the gaps.  (They were caught.)  But that's very typical of extreme groundballers.

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Q.  Leaving us where?

A.  With SSI's RH bullpen -- as of Mar. 25, mind you -- as Cishek-Benoit-Zych-Karns-Roach.  Guaipe next.  And with jemanji kickin' himself.

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Siiiiggggghhhhhh,

Dr D

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Jones once threw 253 innings and gave up 6 homers.  6!  That's a paper bag full of Coors!  In a season.  That was a year when he didn't win the Cy.  Really.  In his Cy year he threw 25 complete games.    Felix has thrown exactly 25 in his career!  Really.  In the 6!!! homer year, Jones walked 2.3 guys per game and K'ed 2.5.  Really.  I'm not making any of this up.

Remember him very well, Doc.  He threw some kind of a legal Gaylord Perry pitch, 2nd or 3rd gear speed, that batters chopped into the ground with amazing regularity. Kind of a great personality, too.

He induced twice as many GB outs as FB outs.  Felix is at 1.7 over his career.

I loved watching Jones, the few times I sw him on TV.  If Roach is a Jones-lite, I'm tickled pink.

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Wow! Bringing back the old junkball masters Moe! Jeff, don't you love it? There is more than one way to skin a cat. I love seeing the non-stud do his thing. Jamie M would be proud! 

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6 HR in a thousand batters.  I got your HR/fly ratio right here, pal.

I remember "discovering" Jones as a kid when I got up in the morning to read the box score on my Big Red Machine -- expecting Reds 7, Padres 3 -- and Jones had pole-axed them.  Never underestimate the groundballers!  For a coupla months or years, anyway.

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Let me be your cruise director. Roach to me represents a little of what I call the Moyer Mesmerization Effect tm. When you watch him warm up, you say "get me to the bat rack!" Doesn't look like he could get anyone out with that junk. The game I remember, the dudes were swinging out of their shoes. Something like 5 out 6 outs via the K. Might be great to have a guy who could come in and get a needed ground ball, eh? Instead of just wishin'.

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Dr. D is a big believer in the "sneaky" pitcher ... Chris Young's sneaky-fast straightball thrown from 2' in front of the normal release point.  Moyer's "comfortable" 0-for-4.  Tommy John's avalanche of knee-high pitches that drop to the shins.

Keep right on saying "I tolja" on Roach amigo :- )

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Isn't this exactly the Dipoto Theorem of relief pitching? That being that most relievers are so volatile year to year that for most of them you cannot predict their performance based on the previous year's results. (The elite relievers being the exception.) So stock up on a passel of guys you can get on one year deals, minor league deals, spring training invites, et al...keep your mind open and try to pick the guys that will have that up year. 

The bullpen still scares me but it'll be fasciniating to see if this works. 

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saw a dipoto quote that roach is throwing his splitter "that he used to throw in college" more this spring than they ever saw when he was with the angels. anything to that, i wonder

 

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