POTD Jaso - hitting template

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=== John Jaso Hitter Family ===

If you ain't in the mood to deal, skip this post.  Hit the other blogs with Dr. D's blessing.  You don't want him spitting on your euphoria here.

Good ol' Big Blog used my beloved "Hitter Family" approach to triangulate Jaso neatly.  They selected three very fundamental criteria, too.  Beautiful!

Gimme a Red Robin "Happy Happy Birthday" clap and song.  If our ... er, if Bill James' ... "Pitcher-Hitter Family" approach proliferates into a stock approach, baseball understanding will be the better for it.  We say that in all humilty.  On James' behalf.  ::ahem::  ::scratches mustache awkwardly::

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Remember that the Pitcher / Hitter Family sort is a Level 101 Scan.  After you decide that Casper Wells is somewhat like Richie Sexson, you then go to Level 201, which is to ask what the deltas are between your current guy and his template "friends."

Wells isn't Sexson.  Sexson was an outstanding ML player at a very young age.  Wells isn't as good.  That has to be weighed carefully.

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As well, the template stands or falls with a super-careful selection of defining attributes, and the truly comparable players have to be included in that capture.  Here's where SSI would have an add to the "John Jaso Family" ....

Swing % High BB rate
Contact % Low K rate
ISO Low-moderate power (static baseball swing)
SLOWFOOTED Goes to issue of BABIP
LH Goes to issue of general swing shape

Those last two lines are mine, and IMHO they can't be left off.

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=== SSI Interpretations, Dept. ===

In my opinion, Casey Kotchman is very comparable to John Jaso offensively, and Denard Span is not.  The retiring John Olerud, after he was 49 years old, is comparable; Scott Podsendnik, with 60 SB's, is not.  Scott Hatteberg is like John Jaso; Joe Mauer is not.

See, Joe Mauer had a couple of seasons where his ISO happened to be under .140, but ... Joe Mauer can hit the ball hard.  It is a defining characteristic of John Jaso, and Casey Kotchman, that they take static swings and fail to accelerate the bathead.

Which is why it was odd, in this article, for the author to say that the machine-generated comps list "was peppered with sloths" like Mauer, Hatteberg, Barton, Olerud, and Grace.  Actually, 70% of the people on this "arm-swing, 3-and-2-count" list were speed burners.  But let's take those five:

Mauer N/A.  Crushes ball through IF for hi BABIP
Hatteberg .261 BABIP on this list
Grace .258 BABIP on this list
Olerud, 2004, old .281 BABIP
Barton .318 BABIP - the one counterexample

Look, guys.  If you get Casey Kotchman arm-swinging a declerated bat, and he can't run, you're looking at a lousy BABIP.  That's axiomatic.  And it's much worse in Safeco.  Kotchman's career BABIP is only .280 -- and his year here, it was .229.

Tampa Bay fans complain that Jaso's 1.51 EYE in 2010 occurred before pitchers realized that he can't do anything with the ball once he made contact, and then Jaso's EYE sagged all the way to 0.69.  That explains the super-high minors BB/K ratios, mateys.  Bush league pitchers weren't going to figure out such a sophisticated pattern, especially not with minor leaguers changing leagues all the time.

Casey Kotchman ran great EYE's early on, and those EYE's dropped off as pitchers realized he couldn't hurt them.  You saw this syndrome with Chone Figgins too.  In Safeco, there's nothing to fear from guys like that.  And they lose their walks too.

It's not just my theorizing.  Tampa fans will tell you that's what they observed with Jaso.

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Comments

1

He came up as a comp to me, too, based on the numbers.  They were mirror images in 2010-11.  Jaso was strong in '10 and struggled in '11.  Kotch cratered in '10, but rebounded in '11.
I actually like Jaso's overall numbers better than Kotchman's, but I'll take a decent facsimilie of Kotchman from the catcher position.

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Kotch was not as bad as he looked here, with his BABIP of .229.  But he's not as good as he looked this year for TB when it was .335 either.  He's about .280 normally.
I would take Normal Kotch and be satisfied at catcher.  .270/.335/.400 would be great from Jaso.
~G

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A Kotchman line would be welcome at C. I like that comp offensively (maybe a smidge less power). Defensively, the guys are on two different ends of the spectrum.

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The worry for me (and for many Tampa fans) is that Jaso is going to be Kotchman.  But there's a good chance that Jaso will regain his 2010 (relative) aggressiveness, and going forward I'd plump for Jaso, not Kotchman, if I were filling the DH spot with either one...
As you guys have reminded several times, Casey Kotchman's bat would be a real plus from the 2 slot .... 'twas at the 3 slot that Dr. D whined himself into oblivion...

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.270 / .335 / .400, in Safeco at catcher, would look like manna from heaven.
Joh would hit .280 / .330 / .440 early on, a bit more power (HR's right down the line) and a bit less OBP ...
Unfortunately we had no way to enjoy Johjima's contributions, because of the constant bickering -- empowered by Hargrove -- during Joh's time here.

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