Let's explore the 9-to-make-5 idea
McClendon's political capital is growing with compounded interest

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M's 8, Red Sox 2

In case the Red Sox thought Monday was an accident.  Take this with you.  And enjoy WBC-san tonight, too.

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Erasmo Ramirez

That's four games in a row.  His motto has been "I Will. Not. Center. my short fastball."

The result has been nibbling, picking, and 44 strikes vs 49 balls.  It's like having your fingernails pulled out with pliers, to watch him aim a pitch at the inside black and desperately hope to nick it, for a called strike.

Those 4 games, in which Erasmo has pitched "with a sense of danger," he has walked 16 men and struck out 15.  If you just joined us, it is not possible to pitch this way in the American League.  Starters like that, more balls than strikes, nibbling like every hitter is Mickey Mantle ... you can't find any, because there aren't any.

We're not trying to crucify him.  We're just describing reality.  It's puzzling, because he used to have hair-fine command.  Usually you associate this loss of command with a shoulder problem.

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There could be an upside here.  Can't imagine what it might be, though.

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9-to-make-5:  Clubhouse Chemistry

Let's explain a couple of facets of this SSI convention.  :- )  Yes, we used the "clubhouse chemistry" phrase to incite the Seattle blog-o-sphere.  Dr. D is incorrigible, ain't he?

In 7-card stud poker, you own 7 cards, and you pick any 5 of them to represent you at the "showdown."  Totally your own choice.  The "babies" (the 3's, 4's, 5's) don't complain when you leave them on the bench.  

Neither do Endy Chavez and Willie Bloomquist and Jack Buck.  They smile, work hard, and coach the guys playing in front of them.  This makes it very tough for the 4th benchie to circle the clubhouse moaning about how unfair and stupid McClendon is.  It is opaque to the anti-Bloomquist fans, invisible to them, that you need personalities to make San Antonio Spurs type rotations work.

This factor means less than nothing to Big Blog.  This factor is, however, indispensible to 30 out of 30 real GM's.  Bill James, hybrid saber-and-real-life-asst-GM, just had a piece on it:  everybody's 25th man is there for his personality, and must be.

Jack Zduriencik was very, very skillful when he swapped out Jack Buck for that Kelly Shoppach character, who threw a snit fit when he had to give way to Zunino.  The Jack Buck move was brilliant, was hard to perceive at the time, and was an unsung season-maker.

Personally I think Endy Chavez -- a THIRD team captain out of your 4 bench players -- is overdoing it a bit, but maybe not.  Anybody else okay with the current winning streak?

SSI's traffic is double what it would be, if we were 30-and-48.  Curious that the Red Sox drew such small crowds, but the Seattle fanbase is appropriately skeptical.  The 'net fans perceive the improvement first.

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9-to-make-5:  Game Theory

People realize that 6-to-make-5 is preferable to 5 cards.  They do NOT realize how MUCH preferable!

In home poker for matchsticks - the only kind Dr. D plays, but he's pretty tough against the gamb'lrs who arrive to take him on -- you might go with "granny games" in which you get extra cards at the end of 7-stud.  Maybe you "twist" (trade in a card) for an 8th card, at the price of five matchsticks.

If you have 9 cards to make 5, however, what kind of hand do you think you'll need to win the pot against six opponents?  :- )  Seriously, 4-of-a-kind is the minimum.  9 cards to make 5 creates a hilariously prosperous situation.

In 5-card stud, you might win a pot with King High -- not even a single pair.  But if it is 7-stud, you ante with the idea of needing three Queens to bet into the last round.  The number of cards = compound interest, baby.  A draw at the deck -- say, Logan Morrison right now -- is worth a lot!

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9-to-make-5:  Theory and (current) Application

The 5 lineup spots are the bat spots:  LF, CF, RF, 1B, DH.  Billy Beane* (*Earl) (*Stengel) (*whoever) created the idea of using literally 9 players to fill these 5 spots.  You remember Jack Cust and Chris Snelling playing CF for him, right?  You only have 4 bench players.  Using the max 9, using 9-to-make-5 dynamically and with a sense of summerlong coherency, is going to require some unorthodox lineups.  Remember that, the next time Willie plays DH or 1B.

On any given night, Lloyd McClendon does indeed play any of 9 men in his 5 bat slots, but it goes way beyond that.  Last night it was

  • Ackley, LF
  • Jones, CF
  • Chavez, RF
  • Buck, DH
  • Morrison, 1B

On the bench he had:

  • Bloomquist -- you've seen him play 1B and DH, and deliver sharp line drives to RF, vs. certain SP's
  • Montero, DH
  • Gillespie
  • Romero 

Yeah, on paper it is extremely annoying that Endy Chavez has precedence here.  But on the green grass of American League baseball fields, Lloyd McClendon has his team in the playoffs.

Remember that Tacoma is your 2nd bench, being only 24 hours away.  In the abstract, any of these players could (the DL notwithstanding) be in uniform for tonight's game:

  • Michael Saunders (their best 9-to-make-5 player, we suppose)
  • Justin Smoak
  • Corey Hart* (their richest 9-to-make-5 player, by far)
  • Nick Franklin

So we won't include Abraham Almonte here, but in context -- this coming winter -- he will have been an A's-style draw at the deck.  (How do you like the future perfect, Zum-bro'?)

The M's are, without exaggeration, working a 13-to-make-5.

What kind of hand would you need, in match-stick poker, to win a 6-player game of 13 to make 5?  Double decks, of course.  You got it.  Straight flush, or 5 of a kind, are the minimum to stay in the pot.  Try it sometime.

The maddening thing is, that Zduriencik's young players haven't produced this kind of effect earlier.  Maybe it was the April-May Seattle conditions?

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Dustin Ackley had the 12-pitch at bat that imploded John Lackey, and McClendon correctly pointed out that the PSI of that at-bat (a fielder's choice groundout, was all) set up Ackley's teammates to rip Lackey later in the inning.   When you get the intersection of these two things, the Nightly Pencil (no disrespect) and the constant insistence that players --- > Have An Idea Out There, you get "the process."

Which brings up...

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9-to-make-5:  Lloyd McClendon's Style at the Table

We don't link much, but this video is riveting.  Fascinating remarks about Seager's undiscovered potential, which which Dr. D agrees, and about the offense generally.

SSI is not a shill for McClendon, but the man did grab the M's by the collar and yank them back away from the elevator shaft when they were 7-13 and he had no political capital to work with.  (Check the Eddie Guardado year when the M's went 7-13 and then like 61-101.)

Now, he's got everybody fighting for playing time, accepting it, and actually enjoying it.  For that reason alone, the anti-Hargrove pro-Beane reason, he's okay by Dr. D.  The 2014 M's actually remind you, a little, of the Spurs.

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McClendon might not be Gregg Popovich.  I dunno.  But he is classy, he is dignified, even with his job on the line he absolutely refuses to Entitle players in Hargrove fashion... like McClendon himself said on the linked video, he has been around the game a long time.  That is the impression you increasingly get from him, a Lou type impression.  He does see things we fans fail to see, and he's flexible about exploiting those insights.

Win streak or no, this ballclub is unquestionably --- > in fighting trim.  I don't know what you expect from a manager.  ?

Hey ho let's go,

jemanji

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The wildest seven card stud variant is unquestionably baseball.  In that game, threes and nines are wild, and if you turn a four, you get an extra card, face up.  If the four is in your hole cards, you show it, and get an extra card.   When playing baseball, you don't do any serious betting unless you are sporting at least a four of a kind after five cards with two to go.  To win baseball with five different players, usually it takes a straight flush to win, or five of a kind, which is even better.  I once lost a hand when I was sporting five kings.  The other guy had five aces. 

In regular seven card stud, the odds of turning a four of a kind are roughly one in a thousand, which happens semi regularly, assuming you play five or six people times 100+ hands per game.  The odds of a straight flush are roughly 1 in 5000.  These are exceedingly rare without wild cards.  I've only seen a few legitimate straight flushes and have never had one.  In regular seven card stud, the hands are greatly deflated.  Players regularly bet the farm on two pairs, and always bet as much as they can get paid on if the hand is three of a kind or better.
What does this have to do with baseball?  
After all of these years, Doc, your stars and scrubs theory is starting to make good sense.  As you note, it only works if you have a  manager who is dedicated to playing the hot hand at all times.
  McClendon seems like he is in constant pursuit of the hot hand.  Eric Wedge was not that guy.  Wedge believed in sticking with players you believed in.  McClendon believes that if someone is not working out, and is not showing signs or prospects of improvement, it is time to move on.  All of this hot hand theory seems rather Oakland orcish though, and may set a dangerous precedent.  What next?  Platoon first basemen?  Good to have you back Doc.  We should pay you more.  

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Not to denigrate wildcard players...but it always seemed like the poker equivalent of little league games where they don't keep score. EVERYONE GETS FOUR OF A KIND!!!!! :)
I much prefer no-wild regular old poker where the skill is more about playing your opponents and less about trying to figure out what kind of bizarre hand you can concoct with all the bloody wilds...LOL

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but did I miss it that people call John Buck "Jack", ala Kennedy? I hadn't heard anyone do that until you did it three times in the article...
E-Ram's been sent down, with Maurer brought up. BUT... supposedly it's only as bullpen help since it was used so much last night. Methinks there's another move in the offing four days from now. When Hart's ready, send Montero back down. When Saunders is ready, I think it'll be Romero that goes down rather than Gillespie; Gillespie is the veteran "known quantity" and IMO Romero will be better off in the long run playing every day in Tacoma instead of playing once a week (if that) in the Majors. I also reserve the right to be completely wrong about that.

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There's no one else to call up, so it's gotta be Walker.
Saunders is eligible to come off the DL on July 3rd if I did the math right. At that time, he replaces Romero. Then you call up Hart and send Montero back down. When Walker is called up, they'll probably just send Maurer right back down.

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Buhner talked about how different the hallways are in Marinerland, about how the guys buy into the fight and stick their chests out a bit.  How this lineup of 85 and 90 OPS+ hitters believe they are gonna be the best durned 90 OPS+ hitters they can be.
Blowers: "Yup."
There's something to the fighting spirit of the Ms this year, compared to last.  Wedge is a growler and a fighting walrus, but it sounds like his schtick went south on him, just as it did with the Indians.  Lloyd has schtick too, but guys seem to buy in and compete for him rather than rolling their eyes and hunching their shoulders like they did with Wedge.
I'm certainly hoping he's more in the Sweet Lou mold than the last several managers we've had.  Lloyd definitely has things he likes in players and things he does not like.  I will take some crushed egos and mishandled players (Erasmo, for instance) if he can get Seager and Jones and Saunders and Elias and Walker and Zunino to all be part of our next pennant.
Lou broke a few eggs too, making his omelettes.
Let's hope the front office learned their lesson from 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2003 and go GET HELP FOR THIS TEAM WHILE THERE'S STILL FIGHT IN IT.
Ahem.

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Saunders can come off the DL on Friday - and took BP with the team today, so isn't going with Tacoma on the road. He doesn't have to do the whole 20-day rehab. I believe July 3 is the date they have to activate him, ask for an extension, or place him on the 60-day.
I expect Friday he's hitting 2nd and playing RF.

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