Konspiracy Korner, v10.19.17
sittin by a rock at the Bay, Dept.

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In football, you have to watch the amount of pressure that you put on Marshawn's off-tackle stomp play.  In baseball, you have to work around the temptation to throw Felix' "dry spitter" every single pitch.  And in the blogging bidness, you gotta watch the Clickbait shtick,  seeing as that every cheap ploy for 43 responses comes with its own set of costs associated.

That said, the Think Tank never ceases to amaze, and one of these days Dr. D is going to begin seeing the crew for what it is ....

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What's Trending in Seattle right now includes

  • Cliff Avril
  • Spirit Day
  • Russia (with a new variation on the theme)
  • Shakeout
  • All of the above
  • None of the above
  • Pick yer own

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Q.  Is Dr. D a conspiracy buff?

A.  He is long past caring which government official decides to do what, to whom, and where and when.  You know, from a procedural standpoint.  He does find it odd that an otherwise-reasonable Denizen might think that affixing the "conspiracy" label to an evaluation of a weird public problem, helps us figure out what happened.

"Occam's Razor" is a way to direct our attention to more-likely hypotheses.  Once the hypotheses are collected, the next step begins in the Scientific Method:  INQUIRY as to which data best fit the hypotheses.  Dr. D would tell you why Occam's Razor is less useful at this stage, but then he'd have to kill you.

His prediction is that the "conspiracy" label is about to quickly lose its effectiveness, as have many other labels recently.

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Q.  Why would the guy have 25 rifles and 1,000s of rounds of ammo, rather than 4 rifles and 1,000s of rounds of ammo?

A.  This could be explained by simple gung-ho and fantasyland, I s'pose.  I'd like to see a log of the dude's Netflix selections.  Is Commando on there anywhere?

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Q.  How many Stephen Paddocks have nice-looking girlfriends and the ability to provide for them?

A.  This is the first one I ever remember.  Kurt Cobain shared these two life traits but was a little bit short on the body count.

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Q.  What was Dr. D's first reaction?

A.  Pro gambler who knew they were comin' for him, and decided to have a last fling?  Doesn't sound too likely after the first five seconds or so.

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Q.  What is Dr. D's reaction at this point?

A.  Seems like way, wayyyyyy too many weird things for --- > a simple "some guy snaps a piano wire" explanation here.  Being the anti-media kook that I am, I think the MSM would much prefer a nice clean "Mean White Guy" narrative, while the Rush Limbaughs and Breitbarts of the world seem authentically uninterested in the story.

Back in the 1960's and 1970's, it was popular to point a finger at the CIA et al and presume some sort of domestic-manipulation move.  But the main interest for me, here, is why there is so "obviously" something weird going on, and nobody seems to fancy the Bob Woodruff role.

There are times when Dr. D throws an idea out there because he is curious what is going on, and youse mooks are more likely than anybody to help him out here.

Respectfully,

Jeff

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How about this article from People.  It says Paddock had a no good, bank robbing, psychopathic father, and psycho tends to pass from father to son.  The article also says that Paddock also had a very bad childhood.

None of this explains the very real phenomenon that lone gunmen don't have jobs and girlfriends. 

Why have 24 guns at the crime scene?  Pull up a couch.  

The guns were Paddock's babies.  They were his trophies, his friends, and an extension of his id.  Paddock felt about his guns the way Floyd Mayweather feels about money.    Why didn't Paddock travel light and take his best two guns with a thousand rounds?  He wanted his whole arsenal to be there with him.  Why did he do it?  One does not collect 24 assault weapons without thinking about killing people now and again.

I think there is also a thrill motive for Paddock.  You don't gamble for 20 hours per day without having a bit of an obsessive thrill seeking personality.  Also, gambling probably didn't push his buttons as much as it did at first.  

How then does he have a girlfriend?

Beats me.  Never heard of such a thing.  

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Guns as babies ... you know and I know what a well-made gun feels like, looks like, how the whole is much more than the sum of the parts.  Pretty sure you nailed that one amigo.  If you know this is your last day on Earth, you wouldn't want to leave any of your family out of the party.  Works for me.

Thrill motive, another Zuumballesque one-arm "fliner" to the catwalk.

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... how does a man -- we're talking about males here -- hit that pitch-perfect note of despair WITHOUT the years of smoldering frustration to simmer and season him into something special.

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"It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery,  inside an enigma."  Winston Churchill

OK, Winnie wasn't really writing about this subject, but the line fits.  This one we may never figure out.

I have a great article, one I share with my psychology students, about the thread binding most terrorists and shooters.  The author labels that thread "TNT."

Testosterone.  Narrative.  Theatre.

The narrative may not make sense to you and I, but almost always there is a statement, manefesto or video that explains the real or perceived insult that the perpetrator (or someone whom they stand proxy for) received.  In this case there is almost a huge effort by Paddock to avoid just that. 

So I think we're stuck with conjecture and assumption.  I don't like that in this case.  So I'm willing to say that we will likley never know what went haywire in his brain or life.  Our natural tendency is to attempt to make sense of such events, or at least a sense that we can sort of grasp.  Perhaps a story of mental illness or mistreatment.  Maybe jihad, maybe jealousy.  But in this case, I'm good with describing this as an unknowable evil act.  Doc, I tend to think it was the "some guy who had a wire snap," deal,  or a slow stretching to the snapping point.

Guns?  I am sure I have friends with 20+ guns.  I'm a deer and elk hunter with 4 rifles of my own.  Three are of the high powered variety, one is a .22 (that has had less than 50 shells through it in 20 years.  Hasn't been out of it's box in 10).  I happen to have three other guns in the house right now, guns left to my nephew by his (maternal) grandfather.  My brother won't have them in the house, so they reside with me until my nephew (now 20) finishes college.  So that makes 7 guns in my house.  And I'm not a gun nut by any means.  I enjoy them, handload for my hunting rifles, belong to a gun range, shoot seasonally and well, and treat them with respect and care.

But I have friends who do that with 20 guns.  BTW, I'm pretty sure that almost all of them do not own the AK variety of firearms. As it is, I am not alarmed by 10, 15 or 20 guns in a gun safe or closet.

But Paddock's guns were so chosen and adapted for such massive firepower that my friends and I offer nothing of real comparison.  There was an intimacy to his planning this tradegy.  It was almost delicately planned.  In that, find the long slow stretch to the actual snapping act.

This is my 37th year in the classroom, 35 years with high school kids. I've always felt that a huge part of my job was to help events make some sense to kids.  Planes flying into buildings, elections, tsunamies, planes disappearing into the Indian Ocean, shootings, you name it, I want kids to have a sense of the event and the reasons for it.

But I can find no reason to assign to this one that I can trust in.  Occasionally that happens.  The best I can do here, without a narrative that makes sense, is still fall back on testosterone and theater.  Could any city more well fit those two variables than Las Vegas?  Hadn't thought about that until right now.  Hmmmmm?

Something "obviously" weird going on here, Doc?  I don't know.   I just see a terrible act, terrible and intimately planned.  But I am not convinced that any "something" weird, a quirky ripple in the universe, could have been identified ahead of time.  Well, minus his moving a tremendous amount of material through a motel and into a room.  Prior to that, radar wasn't going to pick this guy up, unfortunately. 

This mook can't explain it.  I am not sure we ever really will.

My two cents.  You guys probably deserve a refund.

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to the extent you can agree or not agree, when you don't have an opinion!

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No complaints with a guy who wants to stock up on his art collection.  I think my top was probably around 12.  And I enjoyed indulging the little fantasy that when Armageddon occurs, I'm then Buffet-level rich ... ;- )  never mind the fact that jackals from 6 states in every direction come after me for my collection.

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What gets me here, is the little bits of intrigue that suggest that a larger operation could have been possible .. $100K to his girlfriend the week before, right?  His brother on the Scott Adams video and the weird body-language thing like he's in on it?  The tantalizing prospect that the Manadalay Bay surveillance crew (robust as it is) seems to itself have something to hide?

Or am I out to lunch on all that, per usual?

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Somebody was asleep at the wheel, in the sense that he moved an arsenal into that room, in just one day, and did it under folks noses.  On the other hand, if you see the same guy bringing in 10 different suitcases (don't know the actual number) do you get alarmed?  And if he moved stuff in over the course of an evening, night and morning, then would any single security guy catch anything amiss?  I don't know.

Didn't see the Adams video, so no comment.  The money transfer?  A guy taking care of his gal seems to be a description that fits the act.  Her willingess to return seems to indicate she had no prior knowledge.

Twice before he checked into Vegas digs adjacent to outdorr music festivals.  It is easy to wonder if he was waiting for just the right one, I have no problem there.  those may have been dry runs, which lends itself to the intimacy and detail in his planning.  It would be interesting to see the surveillance tapes from those motels for those dates.

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to everyone else on the internet.  I'll stick with some head scratching facts.  The CEO of MGM, James Murren, sold roughly 80% of his shares in the company about two weeks before the attack, and he wasn't alone.  There were multiple officers, directors, board members,  the largest shareholder Trucinda (of the estate of Kirk Kirkorian, which is being managed by a former director of the company), and an affiliated company that combined sold about 1/2 billion dollars worth of MGM stock weeks before Paddock went off.  Some of the sells were processed on September 11th.  What's more head scratching is that MGM had just announced a 1 billion dollar stock buyback program September 5th.  This information is easily verifiable through the EDGAR database on the SEC website.  I'm in the financial profession and I have pulled up the company 144 filings, and have seen them for myself.  

Another thing I thought was odd, was that the death toll did not rise precipitously from the 500+ people that were injured.  Anyone that has ever gone to a concert, football game, baseball game, knows it can take forever just to get to your car when you're not injured.

Anyone that has undiagnosed mental illness usually self medicates with alcohol and drugs.  Yes, I know Paddock was on anti anxiety medication, but Steve Wynn gave an interview and said Paddock had been coming to his casinos since 2006, at least twice a month and said that any employee of his who had ever come in contact with him never once saw he or his girlfriend ever have a sip of alcohol.....ever.  In Vegas.  From someone who's a thrill seeker?

The security guard resurfaces after skipping out on many interviews, and then shows up on the Ellen show, which just happens to be owned by MGM.

This whole thing is so bizarre. 

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The shooting was a terrible and tragic event.  And while I know this isn't really in-keeping with the tone/tempo of the article, all I can say is that any society which can lay legitimate claim to being a 'free' one has to permit its citizens sufficient freedom to behave badly--even terribly and tragically.

But there were definitely failure points along the way here which might have been addressed, primarily by the hotel staff.  Not saying they *should have been* addressed, just that the *might have been*.  Would fostering a culture of greater individual responsibility contribute to those failure points being addressed?  Possibly.  I honestly don't know if there's a remedy to this type of tragedy that doesn't unacceptably curtail freedoms.

My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

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It just came to me why the casino might be quiet, or waylay a security guard, or lose a few security tapes. 

Suppose there was a tape showing Paddock packing a cannon or a gun case into the casino. 

and suppose that tape was date stamped to several hours before the murder spree. 

 Guess who is on the hook for a Chapter 7 level string of lawsuits?  The Mandalay Bay casino is worried about being sued for 800 or so counts of negligence, each in the millions of dollars, for allowing a guy to pack 25 guns through the lobby.  This probably explains much of the wierdness of the case.  

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I like to think of myself as a reasonable guy. When it comes into delving into the unimaginable, however, I tend to be viewed on the extreme end of the spectrum. Allow me to throw my chili-powder and saffron into the stew.

A pilot with little public history, military connections, and covert operations experience? Sorry, just got Paddock confused with Barry Seal. Y'know, the guy Tom Cruise played in 2017's American Made? Conspiracies happen. They're mainstream. It isn't so unreasonable to suspect one here.

Paddock had a childhood with a psycho, criminal dad. He became a pilot, went to work for *Lockheed Martin*, had Z-E-R-O public profile, spent years under the radar, and ended up with vast amounts of cash to blow.

If you can take those ingredients and NOT suspect our intelligence apparatus being involved given their well-documented involvement in the media (Mockingbird), mind-control (MK-Ultra), drug running (Iran-Contra), contracting (Rand, Lockheed, etc.) and covert ops (everything they do), I just might have some 2017 Mariners World-Series tickets to sell you.

The timeline has been scratched out and re-written so many times that we've erased holes into the paper. Jose Campos, a security guard not registered in the State of Nevada, hours before he was supposed to be interviewed by journalists, disappears for DAYS and re-appears...on Ellen DeGeneres' show (no audience) with a different breadth to his chest and a different face. Ellen, who has a documented financial stake in Mandalay Bay and their slots.

LVPD giving press conferences with the FBI staring them down like they work at Initech and their TPS reports are overdue. Zero evidence proffered the public about the how and the why.

You ask me, it points toward Paddock doing an arms deal for the FBI or CIA, the deal goes south, chaos created and Paddock made a patsy while the real bad guys get away. Looks to me like the FBI or the CIA wanted to catch the buyers (hence the surveillance equipment set up in and around the room) and let management know about their op (so the owners shorted, just in case). The FBI looks like they are doing their darndest to sweep this under the rug.

 

 

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Hey Jeff,

I just read through that thread on bjol in which you and James tried to explain the difference between seeking accuracy and truth. Good stuff, especially your suggestion to Trump haters to take a lesson from Sun Tzu.

I think they will begin, now that they have no option but to come out of their mass hysteria. It will be interesting to see if Scott Adams becomes the hottest commodity in media when his book is released and he does the media circuit. That would be the smart move for them - take a tip from Tzu and listen to Adams, who has accurately predicted with precision this whole Trump phenomenon since day one.

Btw, are you following his daily periscope updates? Might be an interesting new platform for Dr. D. And SSI :-)

 

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