Solid points as far as I'm concerned, mal.
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Yovani Gallardo had a bad season for base thieves in 2013, runners went 15-0 stealing a base. Gallardo decided to do something about it. A guy that had never picked off more than a single runner in a season picked off 4 in 2014, 3 in 2015, and 2 more last season. Gallardo's ability to control the running game seems to have improved to a strength: Base stealers are only 24/41 in attempts against him over that span, a 59% success rate.
1. Didn't know that Trumbo was AS bad as that. Thanks for the stats amigo.
1a. For sure his context was tough in Balmer.
2. On the framing... would almost re-raise you Mal. I think the umps like Gallardo very much. 50-50 balls are going to go his way and that should persist -- the more so with Zunino.
3. Sure hope there's something to that, the idea that he was temporarily hurt from July 15 - Jun 16 or thereabouts.
4. Other things too. 1-3 not exclusive :- )
5. Solid graphic of Billy Crystal into the bargain. That's the big thing from where Dr. D sits.
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Quick little reply: my queasiness about Gallardo has never pertained to any velocity loss. Rather, mushiness in general, which is not unusual here. As to whether it could get worse, ask Jeff Fassero ;- )
Very glad to see a detailed, interesting saber case made for Gallardo. If he were to run anything like a league-average xFIP that would be huge for the M's -- probably save us (me and Wish!) two or three games in the standings, the first month or two.
Keep it comin'! Provacative guest post.
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EDIT TO ADD - THAT'S 3 VOTES, with Moe, Billy Zoom and Malcontent. Anybody else?!
I didn't want to press that case too hard, but yeah, Gallardo seems to get more out of good framers than any other pitcher except David Price. Statcorner has a leaderboard for the oTkS%, and the only other pitcher that consistently makes the Top 10 is David Price. He seemed to make it work with Chirinos, but I feel like I read somewhere that while Wieters is pretty solid about not giving strikes up, he's one of the worst framers in the game for pulling balls into strikes - but I couldn't find the article. Anyway, I totally agree that Gallardo + pitch framing is going to result in LOT of grumbling coming from the batter's box.
Regarding the mushy pitches, I'm no evaluator, but looking at PitchFX, it seems like his 2-seem, 4-seem, and slider all move at similar speeds and move on slightly different ways, I can imagine how that might stop hard hit balls without generating swings and misses. He seems to be toying with his change up a lot more this spring, which moves like his sinker but slower with more run and fall. I've thought for a while that JeDi picked him and Felix for training partners; to discuss pitches, usage, getting old, etc. It could be Yovani teachers Felix how to work a mushy fastball and Felix teaches Yovani to throw a hard change properly.
I never had a problem with the Gallardo add. He was a reliable #4/5 who consumes innings for breakfast.
But I think we may find by mid-season that we have better, younger arms.
Very well put together. I've been hoping someone could find reasons where I had not. I can keep watching and hoping you're right for now. Unfortunately there has been so little of him to watch this spring and it hasn't looked good. I'll go on this for a couple weeks while I wait for those images to get to me.
Thanks for calming my fit.
Great points across the board. My big problem with people writing him off so quickly is that he was hurt for a huge chunk last year. Now it's one thing to write a guy off for always being injured, but he's never been labeled an injury-prone guy, and if I'm gonna write someone off I want to see them fail for an extended period while fully healthy. Add one vote for me too doc.
just kidding. We're at 4. Do I hear five?
For the record, Mal's lawyerly objection was overruled with a bang of Dr. D's gavel that sent splinters flying. But you guys go on ahead without me.
Hey Wish. Cool avatar right?
Count me in at -2, even though malcontent makes some great points about velocity late in the year, etc.
His slider is just too mushy and sub MLB level at this point. I'm amazed hes been able to hang on this far.
But looking forward to the DVR today from MLB network. Gallardo starting - hoping to see signs of life on Mars :- )
Am going to run a Gallardo post with the vote tallies. All pregnant ballots and hanging chads included. Anybody else want SSI to name names?
I've got it at +3, -5 for Dr. D's "SSI WORST BET."
These are votes for Gallardo being a decent SP, right? Or is this the line for Brexit? Or Trump? Ah, who cares, I'll vote now and live with the consequences later.
Geez Mal, you're making me reeeeal happy I stuck up for Gallardo the last few days. I was running on faith in JeDi, but now you've given us sabermetrics! Who needs faith when you've got cold, hard numbers?
If Yovani gets a hype train, can we call it the Mexican Train? Or is that variant of dominoes too politically incorrect...
And we all miss Gilda too.
Surprised nobody used them for so long
It's been quite a while since I posted an article here (You can tell from the painful formatting). Like everybody keeps saying, it's a great community here.
Was wondering whether you want me to tweak the formatting next time.
I wrote this in notepad, transferred to evernote, and finished in the post writer and somewhere in there the spacing on my paragraph breaks broke. I've never been much of an HTML guy and was trying to get it finished in a timely manner so my good friend Yovani could make me look as bad as possible today.
I made some comments earlier about JeDi probably having reasons why Gallardo was his preferred Sunk Cost, over Random Player X. These sounds like great reasons. Fills in a hole I couldn't see into at all quite nicely - or as Doc says, different lightbulbs.
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I'm with you. I am not hopeful for Gallardo in the sense of expected performance probability. I figure A.) JeDi saw something and B.) it contained high upside and low probability.
Count me on the Worst Bet side of the discussion, but willing and eager to be proved wrong. That's meant however to include a possibility that Gallardo rebounds, perhaps even beyond our dreams - I just don't think it highly probable. Does that leave me on the fence?
The first 2 pitches in a row that I liked came right after he gave up the 2 run HR to Myers in the first. Kind of good news there, he certainly didn't cave. The other is that the wind was going out to RCF all game. Not sure any of those homers go out most days And he got Myers to pop out the next time on a good sequence, then struck him out on a better sequence to end the 4th. There were good pitches and it wasn't as bad an outing as the statline, walking the 2nd batter you face is often just the beginning though.
I've seen that he can execute good fastballs, curveball and changeups just not consistently today. If I saw a good slider I misidentified it. I did have some distractions though, didn't catch every pitch. 1 more before opening day.
Great article. Applause to Malcontent.
...but Gallardo a firm sell for me.