Quiet Rivers Run Deep

So, *HOW* does a Kevin Rivers come from nowhere to lead a low minors league in OPS?

The answer is both simple and complex.  I'll start with a simpler question:

How many baseball coaches across America are "decent"?

I work at the National Center for Health Statistics.  Once upon a time, I was asked by a visitor:  "How many people work here?"  "About half," I quipped.

Well, that is probably a humongously generous estimate of competent baseball coaches.  How is that that Tom's River, New Jersey seems to get a team deep into the Little League World Series repeatedly?  The answer is NOT that there is magic baseball dust in the toxic waste dumps of Eastern New Jersey.  The answer is ... a *GOOD* baseball coach can make a humongous deal in the success of totally raw talent.

COACHING MATTERS in baseball, probably moreso than in any other sport on the planet.  Even if you have a Bonds-esque eye, you could end up being a designated walker if you have a swing that is severely screwed up.  My Little League horrors are 40 years in the past -- but the sum total of the coaching I got in 3 years of bench warming was:  "Choke up on the bat."

Doc and Spec are probably 10 times more qualified to coach baseball than at 3/4 of the high school baseball coaches getting paid to do so, (most of whom were natural athletes, and also likely learned nothing more than "choke up on the bat" along the way).  I'd guess they're 5 times better than 3/4 of the Junior College coaches - and twice as good as the majority of the D-II baseball coaches.

It's an unfortunate reality that if you have the SMARTS to have learned something about the SCIENCE of hitting, you're more likely to be a programmer or contractor or any one of a thousand jobs that pays tons better than baseball coach.  (Let's face it, short of the MLB, few baseball coaches are making enough money for there to BE a great deal of talent in teaching to fill the 10,000+ open positions).

And then there's the "star" problem.  Every team HAS the "naturally gifted athlete".  He's the best in every sport - pitches in baseball - slugs .800 -- is the starting QB.  HE has the perfect swing - but he doesn't KNOW anything about how he got it.  Yet, this is the guy that the most time will be spent on.  HE gets all the "instruction", (a good portion likely detrimental, until he gets significantly higher on the learning totem).

There's a reason that 34th round draft picks ROUTINELY succeed in baseball, and almost never do in any other sport.  It's because the teaching methods in every other sport are about 1000 years ahead of baseball.  Okay -- in the past decade or two, the birth of the instructional video tape has likely improved the baseball landscape dramatically - (upgrading from Baltic to Mediteranean).

The sad truth is that the likely bulk of guys who COULD teach hitting somewhere, are probably do so at the local country club -- because teaching golf swings to executives is WAAAAY more lucrative than teaching hitting to teenagers. 

Of course, some Division I schools have strong reps for churning out MLB players.  Yes, recruiting plays a role - but INSTRUCTION is probably the real key.  You've got 25 kids who are ALL getting their hitting optimized.  Meanwhile, the guy going the JC route is (in most cases) left to his own devices, muddling along on pure ability and instinct - (but not having the over-the-top athleticism that gets you a ride at somewhere meaningful). 

While there ARE minimum physical standards - (bat speed, reaction time) - that are immutable.  If you meet those standards, then the rest of the game gets very cerebral, very quickly.  Guys like Piazza get a shot because a friend of friend wanted to be helpful - and then at some point, they pick up some knowledge they didn't have before, and a door opens.  If they'd have that knowledge back in High School, maybe they would've been the star - and gotten the juicy scholarship. 

Of course, you also have the guys who just can't seem to apply instruction - and end up screwing up their natural ability when attempting to do so, (cough cough Lopez cough cough). 

The reason that most 1st round draft choices will never get more than a cup of coffee in the majors is because instruction is soooo bad prior to the minors, that 80% (and I might be generous here), of the kids being drafted, haven't gotten much good advice -- everyone from 1st round to 50th is effectively a blank slate, who is starting from scratch - and is getting a shot because they seem to have done well at a largely self-directed hobby.

Rivers may run dry in AA or AAA or make it all the way to the show before turning into Wlad.  Or, he could just be another in a long, long line of Piazza's - who were not 'naturals' - but had stellar careers while coming from extremely pedestrian roots. 

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Provocative post as usual bro'.  (And thanks for the flowers!)
And then there's the "star" problem.  Every team HAS the "naturally gifted athlete".  He's the best in every sport - pitches in baseball - slugs .800 -- is the starting QB.  HE has the perfect swing - but he doesn't KNOW anything about how he got it.  Yet, this is the guy that the most time will be spent on.  HE gets all the "instruction", (a good portion likely detrimental, until he gets significantly higher on the learning totem).
There's a reason that 34th round draft picks ROUTINELY succeed in baseball, and almost never do in any other sport.  It's because the teaching methods in every other sport are about 1000 years ahead of baseball.  Okay -- in the past decade or two, the birth of the instructional video tape has likely improved the baseball landscape dramatically - (upgrading from Baltic to Mediteranean).

For some reason, I'd never connected these two variables:  (1) the fact that the draft is such a crapshoot and (2) the, ahem, non-standardized coaching at the ammy level.
That just may be the explanation.  I wonder if your theory has ever been proposed anywhere else.

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Taro's picture

Gotta agree with Sandy. We're seeing this happen already.
Andres Torres was AAA fringe 30 year old player with a ton of physical talent and a linear swing.
Two years later hes the best OF in the NL thanks to completely re-tooling his swing. Chris O' Leary coached him.. The same guy who coined the "inverted W".

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...but yes...Torres is an interesting story.
I think the Mariners are going to have more Kevin Rivers stories and less Jose Lopez stories as long as Zduriencik's development program is in operation.  Some of them will get all the way to the show...some of them will just make our farm teams more competitive and teach the real prospects about how to win before they get here (and may even be trade fodder that gets us talent we need)...but I do think the massive increase in farm depth can be credited to Zduriencik's choice of coaches and talent evaluators.

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John's picture

I do agree with comments above.  The schools are littered with coach/teachers that are just in for another check when qualified coaches cannot get in the door.  Guys like Franklin,Ackley,Seager learned from ther dads how to play the game.  As a parent, I know that coaches will move on to the next player instead of teaching the current player.  The problem is the score board at an early age. 
Winning is over rated in youth sports..  You learn more from losing and failure, trial and error is the only way to improve.  How many people were ready to dump Ackley his 1st month of the season.  He had to make adjustments and he has made them, but too many were quick to dump on him.  It is the same with coaches. 
 
John

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IMO, baseball, more than any other sport suffers from too much in-breeding.  The "stock" understanding of "the right way" to do things has been allowed to continue for nearly a century with the general reaction to non-traditionalists being one ranging from scorn and derision to simply ignoring them.
When reading "Ball Four", the state of things at the HIGHEST level of the game as recently as 1969 was laughable.
Before the 90s, the groupthink was "no weight work for baseball players".
Even to this day, there are organizations in MLB who STILL don't believe in the value of the number crunching, and either don't understand the value of a Bill James - or even if they go through the motions to have some geeks-on-call, they're loathe to act on any data that may run contrary to their ingrained belief systems.
How many "analysts", who *ARE* getting paid 6 figure salaries on national telecasts are pretty obviously complete idiots in regards to all number of things?  These are THE CREAM of the entire baseball crop.  You compare the NFL analysis from Madden or Boomer or any number of ex-NFL players or coaches -- and they "break down the tape" - and offer real insight into things completely invisible to the average fan.  Much of the baseball analysis remains stuck only slightly more in depth than "choke up on the bat".
So, what happens is you have schools of coaches teaching players the same stuff that was taught back in 1939 ... and those kids go back to coach high school baseball, perpetuating the cycle.
Michael Jordan couldn't learn to hit a baseball decently.  It's far less about athletic ability than it is about figuring out the precise combination of factors that optimize this ONE person. 
But baseball "purists" are the most dogmatic crowd out there - fighting tooth and nail to prevent anything remotely resembling scientific progress - and this reality filters down to the grass roots. 
Only after nearly killing itself with the strike years has baseball opened to the idea of actually attempting to better leverage their product.  But, even that movement was overwhelmed with the quick and easy results offered through better pharmacy.  And, of course, chemicals are science - and science is bad for the game - so even today, much of baseball believes in "moving forward to the 1950s!"
 

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Taro's picture

Torres leads the NL OFs in WAR.
He was a track star turned ballplayer and now that he can hit well his value has boosted tremendously.
Hes what you'd have if you combined Guti's glove with Ibanez's bat.

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RockiesJeff's picture

Good points John. I have coached several competitive teams and finally HS this year. There are some great guys out there coaching but too many who are arrogant and self-serving. Few really know how to teach but are great at demanding. The John Woodens are almost extinct. I am grateful to work with some of the good guys.

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