Keep Weight Underside, Dept.

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Malcontent sez,

I know Sunday you were saying the swing was coming apart, in at least that one at bat you say he looked good. Do you feel he looked good in every AB? He also had that Deep Fly to Center that died 5 feet short of retying the game as well.

Tuesday night, he hit the ball very well three times.  On the first one, it looked to me like he lowered his CG, kept his front knee in and his intentionality more up the middle.

Every swing he took after that, that I saw anyway, he flew open again, keying the swing with his front hip, "floating" his weight, and hooking the ball.  The one to CF, not AS much, maybe.

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In aikido -- and in Nippon baseball -- they talk about things like "keep one point" and "keep weight underside" and it sounds like mumbo jumbo.  Keep weight underside is like ... have you ever tried to pick up a baby that didn't want to be picked up?  And it glued itself to the crib's pad?  Have you ever tried to lift an unconscious person?

In aikido, one of their 4 golden rules is "keep weight underside," sinking your weight so you're "glued" to the floor, and can avoid "floating" your weight in a fragile, reactive manner -- very possibly Saunders keeps weight underside better now than he did in 2011, even when you can't see it.

We're always "floating" our weight, if we're not unconscious, and this causes an unstable factor in our movements.  A boxer who gets scared might "get stood up" and if he does, he's toast.  Obviously no NFL player wants to be caught with his weight high.  You get the idea.

On the other hand, a doggy jumps forward and snarls, and what do you do?  You go AAAAAAHHHHH!, lift your hands, float your weight, open your eyes and mouth, because you're about to scamper off to safety.  Not because you're about to apply energy to an enemy. 

The human body is fluid, mostly water.  You can float it or sink it as if raising and lowering a bag filled with silicone.

Baseball example?  Pitchers "stand tall" in the windup, floating their weight, so that their parts move lightly, easily and gently into alignment with their spines ... and so that their floated weight then sinks back down into an increased "keep weight underside" drive forward.  Imagine a pitcher trying to throw powerfully while floating his weight?  Well, why would a hitter try to do that?

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Swinging with a 60-oz bat would have had an effect that Saunders may not even have been quite aware of.  It's impossible to lift a weight, levered at the end of a pole, without rooting yourself into the ground to do it.  Take a double-weight bokken (or bat) and swing it, and you will automatically grind your shoes into the ground and you will drop your hips a bit.

Saunders gets into the game and boom :- ( his belt buckle is as high as it could physically be off the ground, his lead shoulder is above his ear, and he's floating his weight.  This shrill reaction is fragile and unstable.  We might add:  one cannot possibly concentrate when inhaling and raising the weight in panic reaction to a dog attack.   Relaxed concentration is possible, when one lowers the weight and exhales.

Bet you my blog that Ichiro would sign off on all this, with gusto, if he were asked about his own hitting.  You don't see Ichiro "expand" like nitrogen gas when the pitch is incoming.

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I had thought, from (1) March articles like this one and (2) my own training with over-weighted equipment, that...

.... the Big Idea was to get the CG lower, to get "short-stroking" knees, and use your lower body more but with less actual movement.

But like I say, I must be misunderstanding.  Because in games, now Saunders does this rarely, at best.

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When Saunders does hit the ball well now -- which is more rare than it was in March, that is for sure -- maybe it is just because he's so talented.  Or maybe it is from "residual" effects that occur "below the skin" despite the fact that the movements are the same as they were in 2011.  He's probably keeping weight underside better than he was in 2011, whether or not he's hooking the ball.  

And pitch selection, taking the ball the other way, is an independent variable.  Just because he's shril-ly floating his weight doesn't mean he might not be looking for an outside fastball.  Hitting is complex, with many variables, not just the mechanics Saunders uses.

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Swinging the heavy bat probably trained him, some, to sink his weight and to direct his energy back through the box, even though the movements don't reflect that much (anymore).  So maybe he's getting SOME benefit.

We keep hoping that Saunders will swing the bat the way that he did in mid-March.  The man's physical gifts are so immense that you can't pry him out of the Mariners' cold, dead fingers.

My $0.02,

Jeff

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Where they teach you to lean forward, swing hard and beg for hits. They're being dictated to. Saunders has started to calm down, IMO. It's not perfect, but he's getting better. His attitude at the plate still looks better to me than it did (and better than Ackley's for that matter).
But Ackley...remember when he used to hammer RH hitting by sitting back in the box and whipping the bat into the ball with authority once he forced opposing pitchers to throw him a strike?
Yeah, those were good times. He's faced almost exclusively RHP this year and is heaving his breakfast all over the plate. His O-swing is up 10% from last year in the early going. His OPS vs. Righties is under .600. He's not walking. He's desperately fighting off strikes in the zone after digging holes with an enlarged, player-created strike zone.
Saunders is doing a better job of not swinging at pitches outside the zone, but still has some work to do on his game. I'm glad he's getting lots of time. Like you said, he's ridiculously talented, and he's missed a couple HRs by a degree or a few feet (that shot to CF goes out if it's June). Mike has a large strike zone thanks to being a tall man. He's not gonna be a .300 hitter. But if he wants to be a .260/.320/.450 CF instead of a .200/.260/.370 one then he's gonna have to make those small adjustments in driving the ball and keep working on being consistent from at-bat to at-bat. He'll have a good one, then a poor one.
Part of being a young player...except he's not gonna get forever to turn into a more seasoned one. Ackley will get time to work out his early-season yips. Saunders has to hold off the return of Carp and Guti. He knows time is short, which probably isn't helping his plate anxiety. Makes me hope for a Guti delay, honestly - he might get it figured out in 6 more weeks. He's still better than the Guti we saw last year and a couple of hits from being better than the one we saw in 2010, too.
He's not back to his March levels, when the games didn't count...but he's sliding slowly in that direction.
I want to see how far up that spectrum he can slide. Right now, both he and Ackley want too badly to drive the ball and prove their worth. I just look at their front side on swings and it's...pleading.
Smoak, meanwhile, took his 4 singles - that he planned to get BEFORE the game, stating "I'm going the other way on this guy and his stupid fastball that dies away from me" and upped his batting average 60 points or whatever. Montero's taking singles, or crushing the ball right at somebody.
Smoak is having early trouble with breaking balls but isn't panicking. He's sticking to the gameplan. Montero isn't catching as much as he'd like and is being inserted in the MOTO with basically zero big-league experience, but is not trying to overswing and prove he deserves to be there. My power hitters will come around - they're being patient. Ackley and Saunders need to follow their lead.
~G

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Not long term...he'll figure it out...but in the short term, he looks VERY shrill at the plate and very unsteady on his legs. I don't know what happened there...he seemed so much more relaxed last August. I think he might need some bench time to go and work on his form while Figgins starts at third and Seager at second (once Guti and Carp are back)...not lots of bench time...but he needs to get his head on straight.

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