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Gordon Gross: Franklin's not on the 40 man. We aren't out of people to throw off the 40 man yet, but Triunfel lets us stall Franklin's service time, especially if we don't believe he's a SS (22 games at 2B, just 14 at SS this season). I'm not big on avoiding Super Two any more, now that it's not the first week of June but rather the 2nd week of July or so that you have to hold guys back til. Major league teams obviously disagree with me when it comes to prized prospects. Funny how Nick can be both prized and doubted in the same breath. :)1 hour 8 min ago
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moethedog: I would bet that you are right here G: Give CT a bit of exposure and see what you can trawl up. But you know what? What more do we want Franklin to prove? If he hits like this for 100 more AB's THEN it means he's good enough? The idea of making moves should be to help your team as much as possible. We didn't. I'll take the move. It isn't the one that should have been made. Soon, please.1 hour 26 min ago
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Gordon Gross: IMO it's not to check him out, it's to try to get some eyes on him as far as making him a throw-in in a trade somewhere. Like you said, time's running out. Maybe he'll amaze us all and turn into something, but in 2700 minor league PAs he's barely OPSed .700. He's still young. He could find it - he's had talent to spare since he was 17 and making a name for himself on the interwebz. But a .2 eye with no walks and limited power doesn't give me a lot of hope. I'd rather he spell Ack than Seager though - he can only do one. :)1 hour 38 min ago
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phxterry: Gordon - Isn't a primary reason to bring Triunfel up because the sand in his hour glass is rapidly running out? By next year he will be surpassed by Franklin/Miller/Taylor, so that if they are ever going to look at him, it pretty much has to be now. I wish he had more experience at third to spell Seager occasionally against tough LHPing.2 hours 15 sec ago
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malcontent: I've gotten the idea that doing it the way its being done is more likely to end with Andino on another team instead of the Rainiers, where he would still have some minor trade value.2 hours 1 min ago
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Gordon Gross: Good luck to Triunfel - but because he's not a platoon partner for Ryan it still sounds like more Brendan in our future to me. Carlos might be able to give Ackley some days off against lefties though, since he plays a bunch of 2B too. Whatever helps the team I'm all for.2 hours 5 min ago
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Cool Papa Bell: All that has happened is that Andino is off the team a day or two sooner and no one else needs to be removed from the 40-man.3 hours 53 min ago
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phxterry: Moe - help me out - will DC's tweet end up costing the M's in some meaningful way? Or did it just change the order of events of what was going to happen anyway? appreciate the help.4 hours 14 min ago
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moethedog: See my Shout below: Appears that Cameron may have leaked the Waiver,which is often "secret." But if other MLB clubs know of the Waiver (and can claim the guy) it would seem strange that you just don't go through with the 48 hour/3rd business day wait. This sniffs of being botched, to some degree. BTW, we think Martinez still has value? Just un-40 Man him, and let us see Franklin.5 hours 19 min ago
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Spectator: Well this is all a mess, but Baker now says that they will be DFA'ing Andino because of Cameron leaking the news of his being put on waivers, but this was not the plan all along, and the proof is that Triunfel had already flown to Reno to play for Tacoma tonight, and now he's turning around and flying back. Odd.5 hours 28 min ago
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phxterry: Good News - here's hoping Triunfel is a major upgrade and takes advantage of his big opportunity. I hope that he plays tonight -- let's see what he looks like. Is Taylor moving from High Desert to AA?5 hours 35 min ago
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moethedog: Quoting here.........."The waiver "wire" is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs; no official announcement of a waiver is made until a transaction actually occurs, although information sometimes leaks out."5 hours 38 min ago
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Spectator: Drayer reports Miller is being promoted to Tacoma, presumably to take Triunfel's spot. Baker now admits that Andino may have already cleared waivers, in which case he can be taken off the 40-man roster, and the minor-league move may have been set up in case Andino didn't clear. Confused enough?5 hours 47 min ago
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moethedog: If a player is claimed and the waiving team exercises its rescission option, the waiving team may not use the option again for that player in that season. If no team claims a player from waivers in three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded, or released outright.6 hours 14 min ago
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Spectator: Baker doesn't dispute that Andino might be on waivers, but he disputes Cameron's assertion that it opens up a 40-man spot for Sucre. Guess we'll see who's right.6 hours 22 min ago
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moethedog: Lots of different reports: http://www.fantasysp.com/player/mlb/Robert_Andino/2870538/mariners-waive-robert-andino6 hours 26 min ago
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Spectator: If Andino clears waivers, he can be sent to AAA, but it takes 48 hours for him to clear. Apparently, however, a separate deal from the Sucre move. Baker seems to be backing off a bit from his prior assertion that the 40-man move would be a minor-leaguer, so I still wouldn't rule out Harang DFA'd for Beavan.6 hours 41 min ago
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