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Submitted by Steen. on

It should be noted that jack has stated that the Yankee deal for Lee fell through because a secondary piece from the Yankees failed his physical. Jack wanted  the Jesus over Smoak initially...and it looks like he was right to prefer him given Smoak's performance so far.

 

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Submitted by jemanji on

My take at the time was that Zduriencik wanted Smoak, because a LH hitter, that Texas wouldn't yield, and that the M's were close to a deal with NYY when Tex relented, so they came up with a reason to powerflush NYY?

It would be interesting to hear a case the other way.  You could interpret Cashman's willingness to trade with Seattle in that light, I guess -

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Submitted by csiems on

Well, considering Adams has played <70 games combined in 2010-2011, it seems that Jack had some valid concerns about his health.

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Submitted by Jumbo on

There is still $11.8M left to spend on this years budget and Figgins, Olivo, League, and Vargas are players that need to go this year or next. Figgins contract runs out after 2013. Olivo and League are FA's after 2012 and Vargas is still Arby eligible for 2013. They should all be traded ASAP if possible unless they want Vargas on a long term contract. If I'm not mistaken, the new CBA won't award draft picks unless the salary exceeds $12M per year. This is very important when looking at 2013. This year, the M's will have all their draft picks plus an extra one at the end of round 3. We'll have that draft in June 2012 and we'll have another year to see what the farm system grows for us. I agree there will be much volatility this year like Sandy says but it's absolutely necessary. I don't think it makes any sense to spend the $11.8M just to be spending it and M's could go with what they have now and save money for trades later this year. As long as Zduriencik has the money available to him, he will use it to make upgrades as they present themselves.

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Submitted by jemanji on

Wow, that would be a clause that would be an almost-unprecedented hit for the union.  would create a very real barrier to player salaries in the $10-15M range ...

Oh.  If you pay a player $12M plus, that's when you GET compensation.  Gotcha.

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Submitted by ghost on

I say we sign Roy Oswalt away from Texas with our dry powder and then trade our pitching depth again to another club for another bat...preferably another club in the NL...just to say forget you to the Rangers. While we're at it...we should try to bid up the Angels' pursuit of Ayala even though he's completely not worth any amount of money realistically and hope they outbid us.

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Submitted by jemanji on

Boom!  We've got a #2 again... that would add so much salt-and-pepper to the 2012 cafeteria grub...

Oswalt in Safeco would have an interesting shot at a 1.99 ERA over 20-25 starts... take that into your free agent offseason, pardner...

He wants $8M?!  Why not just pay him for 3 WAR and be done with it?

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I can't imagine him passing up teams like the Red Sox, Rangers and Cardinals to come to Seattle, but if everyone is grousing about giving him $5 million then just pay him whatever he wants. If the franchise is willing to give Carlos Silva $48 million and a broken down Barry Zito almost $100 million, why not pay Roy Oswalt 10 or 12 million? They are probably below last year's budget by that much, and they can turn around and trade Vargas and save another $4.5 million and get another decent player in return.

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Submitted by Buschleaguer on

We can always trade him at the deadline to a contender desperate for a starter.  You know he's probably gonna have a monster first half in Safeco if healthy. 

Ah yes, more nice prospects for our #1 rated farm system :)

 

2013 and beyond....watch out AL!

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Submitted by RockiesJeff on

Lots of great comments and perspectives! I would still love to see Fielder in a M's uniform. I watched him terrorize the Rockies here. But with half of that contract! That is crazy stuff. I didn't know there were still that many people left in Detroit! I look forward to seeing how the kids do both position wise and on the mound.

 

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