Walter Jones - RIP? Not so fast, brother

Q.  Is Walter done?

A.  That's certainly the easy thing to assume.

At the press conference, Jim Mora was reportedly hesitant and melancholy when asked whether Jones had any chance to play next year.

When asked about Jones' chance to play again, Robbie Tobeck politely stated that he assumed that Jones would retire, simply "because of the type of injury it is," not because of any inside information.

All the beat writers, of course, were sour - the consensus was that if Walter played again, it wouldn't be for the Seahawks.  (?? - who would be more motivated to give him a chance?)

Kevin Calabro, a guy I'd rather listen to than literally any other non-athlete voice on the radio Seattle or national, was vehement that the Seahawks needed "to be proactive" in telling Jones where he could get off, and moving on to the next generation. 

(This is, IMHO, colored by Calabro's own experiences in watching aging NBA legends albatross their franchises at the end of their careers.  "You only get 53 slots," quoth Kevin.  Um, ok, only 53, huh?)

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Q.  So why does D-O-V get to be contrarian?

A.  Because after all this, Walter Jones gave his own press conference and calmly informed everybody that he'd play next year.  Seattle radio, Oct. 28, 2009, Jones said, quote, "I'll do whatever it takes to get back on the football field."

You might retire on his behalf, but it doesn't take him off the NFL active players' list until he retires on his own behalf.  And he ain't retiring.

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My man Calabro went into his don't-let-the-inmates-run-the-asylum mode, which is cool coming from an NBA guy, but in the NFL the wardens run the asylum.

There was some question whether Jones would be able to play this year; the doctors didn't rule that out.  Jones will have had a year-and-a-half of rest on the microfracture. 

And like we said before, Jones doesn't have to run the hardwood and jump and dunk.  He has to shuffle five or six steps sideways on grass.

I'd guess like 60%, 70% chances that he doesn't play next year, but also a 1/3 chance that he would.

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Q.  Would he be any good?

A.  Just last year, 2008, he gave up a grand total of 3.5 sacks all season.  What would you do with a RDE that totalled 3.5 sacks playing every down?

Provided they're healthy, which is a Jones-sized "if," then HOF linemen can play at 36-37.   Jackie Slater played well at the age of 40.  Forrest Gregg, 37.  Kevin Mawae, 37.  With their wing span, size, and technique, they can play.

For sure, a lot of these guys do quit right about at the age of 34-35.  But I think a lot of great NFL tackles retire not because of playing badly, but because their legs give out ... oh, wait.  :- )

Anyway, the point is, if Walter felt okay, I wouldn't bet against his playing well at 36-37, if he wanted to.

How he feels is the key.  I hit 36-37 and that was precisely the age at which my legs started feeling bad.  Nobody's saying Walter might not be done.  He might be.  But I wouldn't call it impossible for him to play well again; that's overstating it.

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Q.  Would it be a charity act on the Seahawks' part?

A.  That's what my man KC was selling, but I ain't buying.  I think Walter Jones will be better at 38 than an ordinary tackle at 28.

Part of the reason the Seahawks burned six games on Walter, was that they thought he could dominate at 35, right?

He just did get done dominating at 34, last year.

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Tacoma RainIs it time to look at back up catchers who can play RF or 1B??1 hour 45 min ago
moethedogAllen Craig, Matt. He's still there in Boston. He's likely available. There is interest. There are teams that think he's not done. It will likely be Rios, I think, but Crig will hit .300 again for somebody.Right now, however, our most pressing needs are a RF (regardless of handiness) who can play CF, too...and a COF/1B1 hour 58 min ago
SABR MattI bet we did bid 4 years. I feel better now...can't do anything if the other side just doesn't want to play with you...Alex Rios it is.4 hours 33 min ago
DaddyO@moe ... Today, I salute you, sir. On Jan 6th, it's "Hey you!" :)5 hours 33 min ago
moethedogMuch appreciated Daddy. My last Mayoral day is Jan. 5th. After 6 terms I decided it was time to step aside. Hardest decision I've ever made. On Jan. 6th you rank me! :)6 hours 27 min ago
DaddyOMayors take precedence over retired peons like me!8 hours 1 min ago
DaddyOHah! Moe and me cross posted.8 hours 2 min ago
DaddyOhttp://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/white-sox-to-sign-melky-cabrera.html (see note at 4:24 pm)8 hours 2 min ago
moethedogBTW: Somebody was willing (according to reports) to go 4 years. Us?: 4:24pm: Cabrera rejected a four-year offer from an unknown team because his preference was to play for the White Sox, tweets CBSSports.com’s Jon Heyman.8 hours 2 min ago
DaddyONow per MLBTR an unknown West Coast team did in fact bid four years for M.Cabrera, but he decided he preferred to play for the White Sox. Seems plausible that the mystery WC team was Seattle. That would explain a lot. Perhaps Jack signaled a fourth year was doable only to be signaled back that it just wasn't going to happen. If so, then Jack did do everything he reasonably could.8 hours 3 min ago
moethedogThinking about Souza, I was scouring some Nats' sites and their Harper dissatisfaction was a topic of interest. In all seriousness I began to wonder if we were discussing the less likely Nat: If you could get Bryce Harper and change for Taijuan Walker and change would you do the deal? I don't know what to read into the Harper issue. Is it their version of our Saunders events? I love Souza, but why not make a bid for Bryce Harper. The upside is huge and you hope Cano, Seager and Mac can get him to grow up some. Young stud for young stud would get everybody's attention. Beyond that I will add this: Matt, Seth Smith is way cheap and his career vR numbers are ,277-.358-.481. He's all we hope that Ackley and Saunders would become, vR. He's doesn't hit LHP with a darn, but we could do worse with the bat. Endy for example. Alas, he doesn't play CF. Which makes him a less than likely fit.8 hours 9 min ago
Bat571But trading for a younger, faster guy is a better plan than hoping.8 hours 28 min ago
Bat571Hence my Christmas wish for Mr. Jones!8 hours 29 min ago
SABR MattRios is, honestly, not a bad fit in the 2 hole either. Get a lefty who can play some CF to help out.8 hours 54 min ago
Bat571Looks like Rios, to me. I thought he was a "for sure" 'til he switched to Boras and started laying low waiting for teams to get desperate to run up his price. Well, maybe that is working - I expect he'll get 2 years now and probably $10M a year, rather than the 1/$8.5M that MLBTR predicted. But, trying to be rational about it, a 2-year contract fits better with what's coming than a longer one. And, though his splits last year were pretty wide (much wider than his career split of .749 vR, .800 vL) , a .646 against RH wouldn't have been the worst OPS amongst Ms regulars, and the .898 vL would surely have helped! So, here's hoping for Rios, with a trade for a younger, faster guy to supplement. And a Christmas wish for Montero to be what he looked like he could be and for JJ to learn to hit the bendy stuff.9 hours 3 min ago
MtGrizzlyYeah, it's probably down to the 1-2 year contract guys with platoon issues now. Rios makes the most sense, I guess. Byrd, maybe, as a trade candidate that won't cost Walker or Paxton. One thing is for sure - the club cannot afford to go into ST with Endy Chavez as one of the top 4-5 OF in camp.10 hours 38 min ago
SABR MattIf our offseason tops out at Aoki, Viciedo or Seth Smith, I'm going on a rage spree.10 hours 58 min ago
benihanaSounds like we weren't outbid. With nobody willing to go four years Cabrera took the offer closest to the east coast as he indicated was his preference. I would have gone 4. /shrug. Let's get Upton.11 hours 2 min ago
okdanReally want to see the M's go after an OBP guy for that #2 spot now. Zobrist, Fowler, Seth Smith, Aoki. Someone like that. Really bummed we couldn't get Melky to sign on the dotted line.13 hours 21 min ago
DaddyOAlso, if this triggers Viciedo coming to the M's--- (apodosis omitted, just like in Genesis 3:22, with the same significance).14 hours 33 min ago