SSI Wants the 5th Benchie

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Mike Sweeney
Matt Tuiasosopo
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Submitted by Sandy on

I like Sweeney. I'd love to see him getting 300 ABs with a line such as you suggest. But, like 2009, the issue in regard to bench depth is complicated by how FEW innings some of your "regulars" are likely to provide.

Griffey is 40 and injury prone. Bradley is borderline psychotic and is still hunting for his first 600 PA season.

The "dream" for the season is that in late May, Bedard returns, and starts pumping out those hall-of-fame quality 5-inning starts.

My personal view is that any talk of potentially carrying only 11 pitchers is simply an organization white lie intended to encourage BOTH the pitchers and hitters to work their buns off to make the team during ST.

Felix and Lee are seasoned enough to have expectation. The rest of the rotation is the NBC (No Bloody Clue) Mystery Movie, in regards to performance, stamina or both. Oh, they might break camp for a week or two with only 11 pitchers, (light April schedules do that routinely), but the honest truth is, the bullpen is just as much an unknown as the rotation. Many fans have deluded themselves into thinking the bullpen was good last year, (it wasn't).

And, it is typically April that you're left dealing with things like the EOF implosion, or reality catching up to guys like Corcoran.

The sad reality is that the decision to gamble on Griffey for one more year has put the club in the exact situation they were in last season - having one lineup slot for a defenseless player. While I hold some slim hope that Griffey's surgery can buy him another year at the plate - I think every 14 seconds he spends in the OF is going to be an exponentially growing disaster clock waiting to strike retirement. BIG difference having surgery at 40 compared to 30. Huge!

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Submitted by jemanji on

Remember, though, how seamless Wok made it look last season, carrying *both* Sweeney and Griffey. And it isn't like he had a 155-game LF'er then either -

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Submitted by Sandy on

If you mean it seemed like Seattle had less players than other teams, then yes, I do remember it.

My memory is that during April there were absolute screams about how the thin bench was a disaster, (and that not DLing Sweeney was egregiously stupid -- the one that forced Burke to play 1B for a single game).

I also remember a long, steady stream of grumbling that Wok didn't ever use his bench. The Yankees, (best offensive team in baseball), used 97 pinch-hitters in 72 games. Seattle had 58 pinch-hits in 45 games.

The irony here is that it seems like having 8 guys posting 120 OPS+ figures would reduce your pinch-hitter usage. Instead, it was more than double what Seattle managed.

Griffey/Sweeney undoubtedly reduced the flexibility in going for a pinch-hitter. But, with Ronnie and Wlad as the only pinch-hit options for the first 1/3 of the season, little damage was actually done.

The real irony? Bradley had 15 pinch-hits during 2009 ... exactly the same number as Griffey. (Sweeney had 12).

Honestly, the pinch-hitting situation may be your best evidence of the danger of obsessing about defense. Historically, best offensive players start - and then you might pinch-hit late, and then put in your defensive whiz. Well, if your defensive whiz is already in the game, that whole late game lineup shuffle paradigm vanishes.

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Submitted by EA on

I'd prefer to (1) counter Jon Lester with Mike Sweeney, Ryan Garko and Eric Byrnes than hope to (2) get my 2nd LOOGY into the middle of a 7th-inning game situation.

Thinking back to last year I'm not sure Wakamatsu is familiar with this "pinch hitting" thing. ;)

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Submitted by Taro on

We've got a ton of platoon players this season.. I wonder if Wak is going to be more active in strictly platooning and pinch hitting guys this year?

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Hannahan was a golden boy as a lefty hitter who played solid D and had more than a passing familiarity with the concept of "base on balls" -- and the guys he was backing up were Lopez, Beltre and Yuni.

Figgins in the infield makes Hannahan's skill set way less important. I think they're serious that Tui can make the roster if they deem him competent at short.

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Submitted by jemanji on

Playing 2B/3B, and of course they've got one more dedicated 1B than in 2009, that being Garko. So, yeah.

They have made that statement about Tui, that they have to deem him acceptable at short to be the utility IF. With the Mariners' bias towards slick defense, I wonder if that's possible.

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