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jemanji's picture
Submitted by jemanji on

with a comp list ... is an 0.6 homer rate sustainable by this kind of pitcher?

What are their home/road splits when on their games?

To what extent do their W/L's depend on bullpen or team quality?  etc etc... have a feeling, from David Wells, John Smiley and Ted Higuera, that such pitchers can win pitching for bad teams...

Taro's picture
Submitted by Taro on

Lee also has tremendous mechanics and his velocity peaked in 2009. I'm not too worried about him despite the high IPs count.

Morrow on the other hand.. Maybe Z has another amazing trade brewing?

jemanji's picture
Submitted by jemanji on

and I'm buying season tickets :- )

... I'm greedy.  I'd like to see a handful of glam prospects dealt for AGone or Prince... and then some more inexpensive deals, like Gomes, Doumit, Bedard...

Hey, let's go from 100 L's to 100 W's in two years...

SABR Matt's picture

I can smell the smoke coming from Z's phone...he's been talking to everyone about everything.  If no deal gets done...it will be because it would have been bad to do the deal.

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Submitted by misterjonez on

but I got thinking about what options remain for the M's to address the offense with, and was pretty stoked when I put it all together.

Players who are available, which fit our need of 4th OF, 1B or DH, and will most certainly not cost much in terms of money, years or prospects:

Adam Laroche: 1B FA

Nick Johnson: 1B/DH FA

The Muscle: 1B/DH FA

Luke Scott: COF/1B/DH Bal - likely available for not much

Jack Cust: COF (sort of)/1B/DH FA

Johnny Gomes: COF (sort of)/1B/DH FA

 

None of those guys would cost anything, in the grand scheme of things, and each of them represents a significant boost to the offense.  So much so that I'd be pretty well shocked if we don't come away with at least one from that list when the dust settles.

 

Now for the guys who will make you bite your lip when considering the cost, but would represent massive improvements to the franchise for the near and intermediate future:

A. Gone: GG 1B, 40HR lefty power.  Entering prime, cheap contract x2 years.  Will cost your best 3 prospects and then some, most likely.  Worth it, but it's unclear if SD is actually open to moving him.  If so, I'd say it's a lock that we're at the head of the line.

Jason Bay: LF, 25-30HR so-so fit for Safeco Field with combination of defensive concerns (probably a tick below average LF) and RH pull power (although he does hit cannon shots, so that helps mitigate a bit).  Will likely cost $12-15mil x 4-6 years.  *Could* age poorly, making final years problematic.  Still, Jack has made public his interest in him, and he knew he wouldn't come cheap.

Carl Crawford: LF, we all know the guy.  Vicious speed, good-but-not-great defensive reputation, medium power and very good BA/OBP.  Rock-solid LF, and would create a rather interesting 1-2-3 of Ichiro-Figgins-Crawford (which I must admit is my favorite lineup to make in the MLB video games).  Makes Saunders available for yet anOTHER trade, assuming we're not the only club that's high on him.

Prince Fielder: 1B, basically the same as A. Gone, but a higher salary to start with.  Maybe more bat, probably less glove.  I'd be pretty surprised if MIL wants to move him, since they indicated at the end of the season that they were looking to lock him up long-term.

 

Looks like this particular offseason seems to be a perfect one for Capt. Jack to make His Club.  There are guys coming out of the woodwork who fit perfectly into this team, and he's already gotten the toughest piece to acquire in a bona fide TOR Ace/#1.  Thanks to his shrewdness and foresight, we've got most of our higher profile glam prospects still in the hopper, and are more than capable of overhauling the offense without going bananas in the cash outlay and future roster complications from aging vets.

Seriously...how did we end up with a GM like this?

 

 

 

 

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Submitted by M's Watcher on

By a blowout, did you mean if we were being blown out, or the other way around?  I don't see being blown out when Lee pitches.  I expect we'll likely be in those games.  I am used to the M's beinging out of games when opponents score four or more runs, but I don't see Lee giving up 4-5 runs or more through five innings.  As for blowing out opponents, I'm not sure i remember what that is like from our perspective.  We still need the MOTO bopper to get 140 RBI batting behind Ichiro and Figgins, and a few other non-black-hole bats (and gloves) to fill out the lineup. 

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Submitted by jemanji on

The M's might only be up by 5+ runs once in every ten or fifteen Lee starts (unless Capt Jack lands AGone and one of the kids comes thru, LOL).  But I'd sacrifice some win-expectancy percentage points to keep Lee fresh in 2010.  He just threw close to 300 innings counting ST.

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Submitted by misterjonez on

Usually I'm not fond of things which interrupt my hobbies like sports fandom or other games, but this is one of the rare exceptions where I can put down the ps3 controller and offer up some applause :)

 

Now, back to Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion    hahaha, j/k.

 

Seriously, congrats.  You namin' him Cliff, Lee or Felix?

 

Taro's picture
Submitted by Taro on

lol I'm getting that a lot lately. A baseball nerd, an MMA fanatic, and a gamer too? Now all I need to do is become a nurse. :-)

Thanks for the congrats Jonez!

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Submitted by misterjonez on

when you say it like that, I sound quite...pathetic. ;)

Taro's picture
Submitted by Taro on

I kid, I kid. :-)  I'm a baseball nerd, an MMA fanatic, and a gamer, and I WISH I were in the medical field. :-)

What kind of games are you into?

SABR Matt's picture

You bundle of joy gives me hope that even a total roto-dweeb seamhead like me might some day have a family. LOL

What're you gonna the lad?  I like the sound of Jack Lee :)

Taro's picture
Submitted by Taro on

Note to self: Roto-dweebs like me make the the worst name reccomendations. :-)

Thanks for the congrats Matt!

SABR Matt's picture

I think you should call up Zduriencik and offer to make him the boy's godfather. :)

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Submitted by jemanji on

Many blessings to you and your wife. 

Maybe we'll catch you making some mistakes now that your sleep ratio is going to match up with Halman's EYE ratio?

jemanji's picture
Submitted by jemanji on

Newborns are awesome ... but just wait until your baby is about 3, 4, 5 months old, too.   That's when their personalities start taking shape, they start giving back in terms of smiles, hugs, etc., and it's quite a trip.

Nothing like it, seriously.  Everything in the world is brand new to them and as you introduce them to it all, they give you credit for all of it :- )

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