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Rotation Seedings - Official Program

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Submitted by G_Money on

Or so says the World Wide Leader of Scouting.

Hultzen is listed behind Cole (#10), Bundy (#11), Bradley (#19) and Bauer (#21) all from his draft class.  Why?

 

Hultzen was the highest-probability college arm in the 2011 Rule 4 draft, and went second overall on that basis despite lacking the ceiling...

His best pitch is a changeup, usually above-average if not better, but the pitch wasn't working for him in the Arizona Fall League after a four-month layoff. His slider was fringy all spring but a little sharper in the fall...

He's probably a solid No. 3 in a good big league rotation, maybe slightly less than that, but with the advantage of needing very little time in the minors to continue to develop.

Glad we wasted a #2 overall pick on a #3-4 starter.  *shakes head*  It's funny how for some people "upside" = "velocity."  Felix isn't throwing as hard as he used to, but he's a far better pitcher now.  Moyer was a #2 for a good long time while throwing about 85 mph.

The fact that Hultzen DIDN'T have a great changeup or his killer slider and STILL demolished the AFL should say something.  Apparently to Keith Law it said "eh starter, not nearly as sexy as Cole..."

I'm on record for being a fan of Bauer and thinking he was the best pitcher in this draft. But I am not a fan of Cole, and hearing Hultzen called a middle-of-the-rotation arm at best baffles me.

I think the IP limits we'll likely have on Paxton and Hultzen may limit some of the impact they can have with the big-league club this year...but I wouldn't count em out especially if they show like Pineda did at camp last year that more time in the minors was a waste.

Both of them will not break camp with the Ms, but I'd hope that they will push hard for one spot in the rotation.  They're impact arms.  We'll see if they have the control and stuff to dice major leaguers in March.

~G

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Submitted by ghost on

...every time Keith Law opens his mouth, an angel (and not the California type) loses its wings, falls from heaven, is run over by a mack truck, gets eaten as roadkill by a hillbilly from West Virginny and winds up in the Gulf of Mexico as raw sewage.

Keith Law wouldn't know a prospect - especially a pitcher - if he was staring at the born-again Satchel Paige.

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Submitted by OBF on

recs, or sPoints or something, because this comment would have 100 at least!  :)

 

Hilarious and oh so true!

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Submitted by jemanji on

Cliff Lee

Jered Weaver

Dan Haren

Halladay is 92.0 mph - Hultzen can probably do that

Cole Hamels

Jon Lester

Greinke is 92.5

Against those six, you have Felix, Sabathia, Kershaw, Verlander, Price and Lincecum.

If that's all there is to scouting, to call the next Justin Verlander or Michael Pineda, I think we could all be scouts.  It takes a Billy Beane to call the next Dan Haren, and a Jack Zduriencik to call the next Danny Hultzen...

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