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moethedog's picture

Doc,

You Salamied this one.  One of your best gets ever.  That's an amazing list. 

I was way excited about Hultzen.  Now I'm way-way-way excited about Paxton.

It is unlikely that both Paxton and Hultzen make the squad out of ST (Super 2 and arb stuff, you know).....but by June a rotation of Felix, Vargas, Iwakuma, Paxton and Hultzen would be mucho fun to watch.

Play ball!

moe

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Submitted by jemanji on

If both K-Pax and Hultzen dazzle, are far-and-away the best SP's other than Felix, what they will do...

Millwood is off-loadable.  Iwakuma determines his own fate by hitting 88 or not.  Vargas is a trade question.  Noesi stays...

As with Pineda last year, am not convinced that future salary issues factor in much.  You don't know where a guy's arm will be several years down the line.

:counts on fingers:

moethedog's picture

I agree on the future/pitcher's arm point.  I wouldn't be surprised to see one of those guys in the opening day rotation....just not both of them.

Coming out of ST with just one in the rotation gives you a chance to see Iwakuma (who I think will be just fine) and Beavan or Millwood against real non-ST hitters.

moe

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Submitted by MsFanInSanDiego on

One thing JackZ knows is it is harder to find a power pitching lefty then a right handed hitter. That's the reason he took Hultzen. With the good command of his other off speed pitches Hultzen will be a winner for us for a very long time.

Paxson still has to learn to locate the change or a curve but once he does he could lead the league in Ks more then once. As long as we don't Bavasi our prospects expect a long line of rookie pitchers coming up year after year.... Go Ms

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Submitted by jemanji on

Just kidding.  Thanks for the post SD.

It *is* tough to find a hard-throwing LHP who has any amount of grace and polish whatsoever.  

As we're talking about this subject, I'm starting to wonder just how many such there are.  Seems every time you run into one, he turns out to be Brett Anderson or Derek Holland or something.

 

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Submitted by jemanji on

I wonder about this too.

It's one thing to "hang" a curve, to throw it high without enough spin so that it floats.  But if the curve is tight-spin, does it matter where in the strike zone it is?

Randy Johnson threw 9,000 sliders right down the heart of the plate.  Erik Bedard throws that yakker simply for a called strike.  Did the rookie Clayton Kershaw throw his curve to both sides of the plate?

If the lefty's fastball is scary and the yakker breaks hard, is the location of the curve important?  The MLB hitter is always defending fastball anyway.

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Submitted by G_Money on

From Geoff.

"The fastball and the curveball are very impressive, but it's tough to start in the big leagues with two pitches," Willis said. "He's got two plus-pitches now, but that changeup's going to be very important for him."

Reminded that Pineda had only two pitches, Willis smiled and said the requisite stuff about not having seen Paxton often enough for any comparisons. But then he added, based on what he has seen, Paxton has an uncanny ability to repeat his delivery with ease.

"As good as Michael Pineda was, I've seen two bullpens this year with Paxton and I'm very impressed with his ability to repeat," Willis said. "Especially a guy with his height (6 feet 4). So I think he's got a real good body awareness. Not to say that Michael didn't. But this guy, he really repeats his delivery, and that's a key. Because control and command come right off of that."

Lonnie and I noticed that in his Spring bullpens.  Just like water flowing.  I love watching his arm go straight down, ball behind him, and then around with a smooth easy 96 mph fastball that appears almost effortless.  He's a beautiful thrower of the ball.

He walks some guys but is not especially wild.  The curveball is a hammer that isn't always in the zone, but it's definitely a weapon.  And a rising 96 MPH fastball on the hands is just unfair.

A changeup would be great - and he's added one that surprises people with how good it's gotten in such a short time.  I don't think he necessarily needs a plus one before he sees the bigs.  A plus-plus LH FB and a plus curve is plenty with an average change.

But then, I'm a huge fan of his.

~G

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