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Langerhans' Upside

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Submitted by jemanji on

Geoff Baker was two steps ahead of me on Wlad Balentien.  Right out of the gate he prophesied that the Langerhans pickup was Wlad's death knell.

I didn't get this right away, did you?  Langerhans wasn't even 100% sure to be with the Mariners, and if so, he looked like a 4th OF.

But Geoff was right on the button here.  After only a couple good games from Langerhans, you're completely free to move Wlad Balentien.   Even if Langerhans were to disappoint from here, you're covered well enough, and it doesn't look at all likely that he's going to disappoint.

Kudos again to the boys at the Bak'ry :- )

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Submitted by Sandy - Raleigh on

Which this year isn't far removed from being an Ms fan -- great pitching, no offense.  I could do name replacements on half my Ms articles, and they'd read just as well for the Bravos.

That said - here's the thing about Langerhans.  He's *STREAKY*.  What my eye saw when watching him was the skid-row version of Andruw Jones.  For two weeks, he'll look like he's "got it", and make you happy to bask in the glow of a "real" major league hitter tearing up the league.  Then, for a month, he'll look like he's a kid getting his first look at major league pitching, and he's just as obviously in over his head beyond belief.  At 22-25, that's not unusual, and even to be expected.  At 28, it means you're relegated to the role of #4 OF for the worst team in baseball, (the Nats - not the Ms).

The tough part about a player like this is ACCEPTING the slumps.  Psychologically, if a kid knows that every time he slumps, he's heading to the bench, he just adds pressure, presses, and extends the slumps.  So, when slumping, you give some days off - you slip him down in the order, perhaps -- but you don't take his job away.  That just makes his worst problem worse. 

The reason I noted Langerhans could be a 2nd tier version of Branyan is because when he came up with the Braves, Atlanta had a LOT of young OF talent.  In 2005, the Braves had Francoeur, and Kelly Johnson (who played OF at the time), along with Andruw.  They also had guys like Prado and Matt Diaz coming up, too.  They didn't Langerhans a really good shot at full-time play, because they didn't have to -- (and they had other guys that were generally liked a bit more than him).  They were hoping for a lefty who could dominate righty pitching.  Instead, for his career, Ryan hits .704 against righties and .792 against lefties.  THIS is why I was saying he could be another Branyan.  He's carried a reverse split - but has so little time, (barely 1,000 PAs in 4 legitimate seasons), that nothing is certain.

 

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Submitted by SABR Matt on

The key to rehabbing a streaky hitter is to figure out why he goes through protracted slumps.  A good batting eye never slumps though.  Even if Langerhans is struggling, I gotta believe he'll continue to get on base, run well and play good defense.

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Submitted by jemanji on

If Langerhans is in a red-hot streak as he debuts with the M's.  He certainly looks it!

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OTOH, his K/BB went from 81/29 in 2007 to 31/25 in 2008!  That certainly raises our antennae as to whether those streaks are going to jell towards 'hot' a lot more frequently...

When a player is very young, those 'streaks' may (at times) be visions of what is going to be consistent performance later.

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Was very taken with Langerhans' walk in the 9th against lefty Okajima (sp?).  With two strikes, he took a LH fastball just off the plate and low, and he took it decisively.  Then he took the next one for ball four.

Right now he's either dialed in huge, or he's reading the pitches great.  I'll take either one :- )

SABR Matt's picture

In 2003, Langerhans first got promoted to AAA.  Between AA and AAA that year, his K/BB was 2 (114/57).  In 2004 he began to get more comfortable with AAA, walking 70 times against 113 Ks and swatting 20 dingers while batting .310.

So he got called up to ATL, where he showed decent line drive power but had that 2 K/BB return (75/37 to be exact).  Then he ditty-bopped in and out of the line-up, his K/BB getting worse the less he played, and he eventually wound up back in the minors.  Starting full time in AAA in 2008, his BB/K was right back to the level it was at in 2004.

This looks to me like a guy who takes time to adjust to a new level (he did the same thing going from AA to AAA, the difference being that they let him keep playing through it) and needs to play every day to stay focused on the strike zone.

IMHO, while he may be streaky, the fact that left field is wide open for him right now give shim some cushion and he should be able to keep his K/BB down and his P/PA up.  I see a guy who, under the right circumstances, could be a 20 HR hitting plus fielding walk-taking minor star if everything pans out.  If not, he's still likely to be a tough out and to work the count and to get on base at a better clip than Wlad Balentien.

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