
=== Jack Cust ===
For example, w/r/t #6 above, Jack Cust fanned an average of 179 times per 550 AB's in the minors -- and a lot of that was as an old (experience) player in the minors, outmatching young pitchers!
Cust fanned one time every 3.07 AB's career, in MiLB, and for this reason was airily waved off by the same amigos who waved off Ryan Howard.
Dr. K asked if we remembered the scoffing directed at those who were interested in Ryan Howard. Yea verily, and also the scoffing after Cust's first month of bashing in the majors: "They'll start throwing him curve balls and he'll be back in the minors in a month."
Dr. D went EYE not CT%, and visually watched Cust cover those breaking pitches, and predicted something a little different. ;- ) You could look it up. This is a classic example of confusing deep-count hitting with an unsound approach at the plate. Most baseball scouts reject Three True Outcome pitch-stalkers if they're not obviously Jim Thome.
But Cust had a good EYE to go with that sucking-chest-wound CT%, and when he got to the majors he posted an OPS+ of 146 his first year. His ML OPS+ is 121 as we stand here.
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Amusingly, Cust was written off again pre-2010, even by the A's ... but here he is smoking (smoaking?) along at 120+ again in 2010.
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=== Russell Branyan ===
Branyan fanned 208 times per full season in MiLB ... once every 2.65 AB's in the minors.
Hey, he even went down to AAA baseball in 2008, and what happened then? He fanned once every 3.1 at-bats. This despite the fact that Branyan is an excellent ML hitter.
What is a little odd about this, is that Branyan isn't even particularly a guy with a good EYE. His EYE was only 0.40 in MiLB.
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=== Your Turn Now ===
Cust and Branyan are just a couple of reductio ad absurdums to exemplify the broader point in a very easy-to-see way: Dr. D doesn't remember high MiLB K rates, as such, ruling out ML success for power hitters.
He does remember sky-high K rates, as such, preventing good hitters from getting opportunities, because of the dogma that insisted their swings and approaches were not sound...
And he does remember guys who had Halmanesque MiLB ratios of 183/29 washing out if they could never improve those ratios.
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=== w/r/t Mike Wilson and Greg Halman ===
I'm quite surprised that you good amigos see Wilson's 117 per 550 AB's rate as exorbitant, even if he did have a lousy EYE (which he doesn't). With a 33/25 EYE in 157 AB's (which is 117 K's in 550 AB's), he's got an EYE ratio that looks very good to me across the board.
117 K's doesn't seem like many to me at all for a 245-lb 40-homer type; I'm used to 150-180 rather commonly from sluggers like Buhner, Cameron, Pena, etc (in the majors) and now Howard, Reynolds etc have taken that to 180-210.
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Halman, if you get a chance to watch him, is MUCH more solid at the plate than his K's and EYE suggest. Granted he needs another year. But don't get the idea he's being abused down there. He's just dialed way up.
w/r/t Halman, I've got a great enthusiasm for KGaffney's principle of "let's see some harder AB's when he's down in the count."
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Anyhow, the thread's here for discussion. Definitely have an open mind about the K's principle, in its myriad applications Y+1, Y+2, Y+3 etc, and about whether Mike Wilson is a writeoff based on this principle.
At this point in the exchange, Mike Wilson's 2010 strikeouts put me off not even 1%. I see them as quite reasonable for where he is and who he is.
Keep tellin' me where I'm wrong. :- ) If I'm not, you can relax about Mike Wilson. He looks great to me.
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Cheers,
Jeff
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