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Submitted by Matthew on

Thanks for linking to us, and glad you enjoyed the article. I've been reading your stuff for a few years now, and always enjoy it. Our blog is pretty new and started mostly as a way for my brother and brother-in-law and me to just talk sports, but it's been a lot of fun and I'm glad you found us.

I knew going into the post that going player by player isn't necessarily the intended use for the question, but I was curious to see how they graded out anyway. There are so many different permutations a roster can take with the addition or loss of a single player. I think a Gonzalez or similar bat makes everyone else look significantly better, of course, and could see them quickly turning into a powerhouse with that kind of add.

The current roster is interesting. They have Ichiro and Figgins, who should be on-base and dangerous all year, then Bradley, Guti and Lopez who can be reasonably counted on and might really breakout. Then you have a bunch of guys who could do anything. It's a little like the rotation, actually. My earlier thought was that one or two bad performances could doom them, but now I'm not so sure. If you lose Ichi or Figgins, or if all three of those next tier guys fall apart, you're in trouble. Otherwise, I bet they can mix and match enough to stay competitive, and a few guys (Moore, in particular) might surprise.

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...I did something similar for the Mariners back in 2006, 2007 and 2008...and in 2008, I compared the Mariner roster to the moribund Washington Nationals to demonstrate how bad things could REALLY get vs. how bad they were for the Ms even then.

Can you win your next pennant with this player?

I have only 6 guys out of the 33 or so most likely to get significant playing time in 2010 that I say an unequivocal no to and perhaps another 6 that I'm on the fence about.

The NO players would be Casey Kotchman, Sean White, Jack Wilson (sorry, Jack...I love the attitude, but your legs can't handle the job anymore), Jack Hannahan, Josh Bard, and Garrett Olsen. The MAYBE players would include Ken Griffey Jr., Eric Byrnes, Ryan Langerhans, Jason Vargas, bullpen fillers and Ian Snell. The rest are all YESes in my book. That includes guys like Gonnie Garko (I have a strong feeling that he's going to have a very nice year for the Mariners and gradually steal all of Kotchman's playing time), Adam Moore, Rob Johnson, Matt Tuiasosopo, Michael Saunders (at least there's significant upside here, even though he looked YOOOGLY last season), Doug Fister, Chad Cordero (the scouting reports sound encouraging for him), Erik Bedard (some are concerned about injuries preventing him from ever being right again...I am not)...I like the guys on the fringes of our roster...a LOT. I can't remember a Mariners team that had this many options to keep the club mobile and successful.

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Submitted by jemanji on

Gonnie was one of my zigs as well off the 24-for-27 line. Garko's got some latent energy there, especially in a (n important) role.

Why, what did you hear about the meatball Cordero?

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See second half of this post: http://seattlesportsinsider.com/news/pitching-7-2-2

And here: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/03/catching_up_wi...

"Q. How close are you now to being all the way back?
A. I think I'm pretty much there. I pitched on Friday and they said I was at 87-88 [mph] consistently and I touched 89 once or twice. So I'm pretty much almost there. I feel like my change up is better than it's ever been, and so is my slider. And location-wise, it's like I never left."

Two one-inning outings so far, and 1 ER, 0 K, 0 BB.

He coasted into the majors on pure talent, then got lazy and sloppy and overweight, and then got hurt because of it. Now he's trying to get back. The first few days of camp, Wak was really talking him up.

No one is asking him to be a beast, only better than Ricky Orta or the like.

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He was a yes on my list not because I expect him to be an ace set-up man...but because I expect him to be a better fit for this team than guys like Sean White and Jason Vargas and Garrett Olsen...all we need for Cordero is good command and for him to keep the ball in the yard. You do that, as a middle reliever, and run 60 innings of 4.00 ERA, you're fine with me.

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Submitted by jemanji on

Right, was not trying to 'correct' or edit your analysis - just moshing off it a bit. :- ) But it would have been mondo tough to nitpick anyhow ...

On Bradley, Gutierrez and Lopez, would agree, there is some definite upside there. And it's part of the fact that Zduriencik is secure enough to seek dynamic players, as opposed to safe-feeling MLB(TM) players with well-known production levels and zero upside.

Keep it comin' Matthew. With your permission we'll hip-check off GGS here and there.

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