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Cliff Lee Getting Better?

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Mud Frog's picture
Submitted by Mud Frog on

Hey Doc, when you speak of Lee's plateau leap I think it's directly effected by his GB% and like you say throwing strikes which in turn lowers BB/9.

Lee pre 2008: GB% 34.7 BB/9 4.6

Lee post 2008 GB% 43.3 BB/9 1.5

Lee's K/9 has remained relatively unchanged through out his career. I don't believe pitch velocity and strike outs are as instrumental as some analysits would have you believe.

Fister and Lee share a common Modus operandi. Throw strikes, get ahead in the count, don't walk batters, and induce ground balls. Further more I wouldn't be surprised if fister could touch 94-95 on the gun occaisionally, however his command goes poof and he is no longer an effective pitcher. I've seen Fister climb the ladder and touch 92-93 on a few hitters.

 

 

jemanji's picture
Submitted by jemanji on

The thing that upped that GB ratio seems to have been his cut fastball ... read, "change speed game" ... which causes batters to lunge at the ball weakly these days.

Last out of Lee's night, Hunter leaning over at the waist to top a groundball to Lopez, was an example.  They're swatting flies with arm swings.

Back when he sat at 90-92 all the time, they were planting the back foot and getting some tee shots. 

These days, with that weird little 86 cutter crossing them up, it's like you NEVER see a real good swing.  In the 7th and 8th last night, the Angels were taking fastballs down the pipe...

Good post bro.

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