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Aroldis Chapman, Latest cyber-Buzz

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Anonymous's picture
Submitted by Anonymous on

Other than a Felix extension, Signing Chapman seems like the best way to take advantage of the M's current payroll felixibility.

As you have mentioned in earlier posts, if the M's do not spend this money, it will undoudtedly dissapear.  Chapman seems like a better investment than O.Hudson, Abreu, N.Johnson, or anyother player you could throw money at.

A Chapman signing and a Felix extenstion would be a great way to begin this offseason.

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Submitted by jemanji on

that Chapman turned out to be the real deal, a #1-2 righty-left punch would be pretty sweet in front of Morrow, RRS, Snell, maybe even Bedard...

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Submitted by Anonymous on

Y'know.  I'm sooooo underenthused about the hype for Chapman.  I think part of the reason is that I cannot for the life of me recall the great Cuban HITTERS of the past 30 years.  Which brings up the question of competitive level.

We know that Strasburg has great physicality -- and superb stats.  But, everyone also knows that the competition he faced, (outside the CWS), wasn't the best in college baseball.  So, as you do with every college player, you take into account the level of the competition when projecting ultimate outcomes.

I guess there are some great cuban hitters to play in the majors - maybe somebody can fill in my knowledge gap.  But, by and large, I mostly remember the pitchers.  It's generally the pitchers who used to lead the Cubans to international victories.  And here's where I'm going with this.  I'm not sure that Cuban HITTERS are coached much in baseball fundamentals of hitting.  My picture, (an oversimplification), is one of over-aggressive hitters, who pound lesser pitchers into the ground, and are utterly dominated by better talent.  My sense is one where Cuban pitchers NEVER have to develop particularly good control, because they're facing Jose Lopez, and his 900 clones every game.

So, my view on Cuban pitching talent is that it is "tainted".  It's not that they can't be great athletes.  But, I think ultimately, they start well behind their peers in too many areas, as a result of the environment that they are developed in.  The standard path has been that many of these guys are older when they finally reach America, and therefore get sent directly to the majors ... where they struggle, showing flashes, but typically suffering from far too much inconsistency. 

If I'm crystal balling Chapman, I peg him as the next Morrow -- flashes of dominant stuff with aggregate production that is frustrating and disappointing. 

SABR Matt's picture

Lopez has a pretty good idea of the strikezone these days...he just prefers not to walk...he chooses to try to foul off tough pitches because he likes to swing the bat (as most latin players do).

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Submitted by Taro on

I'm just glad the Angels whiffed on him... :-)

I can't blame the Ms for balking at that price, but Chapman is one heck of a raw talent..

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Submitted by misterjonez on

like Ryan Anderson, Andrew Miller or Aroldis Chapman represents a 10-20% chance of re-aligning whatever division they play in, and a 20-30% chance of coming in a tad short of that (only causing minor gastric ulcers to opposing teams).

Yeah, I'm glad Chapman is literally about as far away from Seattle as possible. Don't get me wrong, I'd be at the head of the line trying to give him his $30mil (hey, do it five times and you end up with a Felix Hernandez and a Rich Harden, maybe/probably). It's just that barring putting him in the hometown jersey, the best place for him has the virtue of geographic and league barriers preventing him pulling a Pedro on us.

Imagine if THAT guy had pitched for one of the other three teams in our division, rather than Boston. Yuck.

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