Stephen Pryor Scouting Report 6.2.12 - Mechanics

=== Checkpoints ===

As y'know, aiki dynamics focus on the center of gravity, its acceleration and the organization of the head and limbs around that CG.  Still, all we have are screen captures here, so we have to start with a static description of the movement.

Here is the live video of the below pitch.  We'll restrict our description mostly to things that are NOT routine for ML pitchers, and remember that things are going to look quite different because of Pryor's bulk:

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Pryor's overall pace - his time between pitches - is delightfully fast and confident.  His tempo, the speed at which he accelerates into his motion, is delightfully smooth and slow.  Moe, have a gander at this and tell me if you don't grok a PGA-pro type of takeway?  Smooth, confident, and unhurried?

Just a great, great intersection of pace and tempo.

In the rock back, Pryor connects his shoulders with the center fielder, Japanese-style.  He sticks his foot out, away from his body, as if he were a high wire walker using a pole to balance himself.  This last bit is kind of weird and you wonder whether it will mess up his ability to hold runners.  I dunno.

Pryor has an absolutely instinctive desire to rock his shoulders backward to second base, one that he doesn't think about.  He just loves to get onto his back hip, to raise the hammer before it falls.  Gotta love it.

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In the second phase of his gather, Pryor draws a Figure 4 with his front foot.  Probably no aiki sensei would go for this "affectation," the pretzel motion of the lead foot, but to me it gives a type of Japanese "pause at the top" as everything organizes neatly down the centerline.

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Now Pryor's lead foot reaches out for the plate as if a blind man were using his cane to find the curb.  The hands separate in such a way as to keep the baseball connected to Pryor's CG, his "one point."  He sinks onto that colossal gluteus maximus and he needs little shoulder turn, which is one reason that his eyes and intentionality are unusually oriented down the centerline throughout.

Dr. Mike Marshall and his "driveline" paradigm would be pleased.  An aiki sensei would be also.

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Pryor starts to splay the limbs in four directions, keeping a high front side (glove high and front shoulder raised).  This will allow an arc'ing of the shoulders, creating a downhill angle and, in Pryro's case, a magnificently on-top-of-the-ball release. 

The organization around his hara, his CG, is unpretentious and to the point.  An aiki shihan would speak of great sincerity.  Yes, Pryor sincerely wants to remove the batter's will to compete with him.

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This, gentlemen, is called getting on top of the ball.

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Dr. D's big complaint, though...  You can't see it here, but Pryor rips his shoulders around with his head.  Here's the video again.

It's one thing to have a max-effort delivery; that's the way that Pryor should pitch, throwing the ball absolutely as hard as he is capable.  Pryor isn't going to be a guy who hits razor-fine spots within the zone; it's good enough for him to hit ANY part of the zone.  Troy Percival pitched that way forever.

But Pryor needs to remove the shrillness from his head yank.  Until he does his most realistic goal is going to be simply to throw strikes.  Ever play Pop-a-Shot basketball in the arcade?  If your eyes are moving like this, it's like trying to shoot at a backboard that is bouncing around.  While you shoot.

You'll notice, too, that Pryor's head is a bit left of his lead foot at release.  This is supposed to be a big no-no.  That's a golden principle, head balanced inside the feet as you let the ball go.

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Don't get me wrong.  Felix yanked his head his first two years; Lee Trevino used a grotesque motion his entire PGA career.  The ball wasn't going anyplace on Trevino, and the strike zone is always in the same place for Pryor.   Probably half of the max-effort relievers in MLB have less-than-perfect head movement.  It's a crazy thing they're doing, throwing 97 MPH.

And Pryor was thrown into a terrifying situation in his debut game.  If I had my way, I'd like to see the head smooth out a little, is all.  Stay down the centerline better.  Felix mastered this over time.

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The torso is fully parallel to the ground and the right arm clears loosely, not banging against his chest - the decel actually reminds of Randy Johnson, mirror image.  The back leg, a favorite Bill James "tell" for a tiring pitcher, is enthusiastic and comfortable.

Pryor dissipates his energy through his decleration better than most guys half his weight.  He's very graceful for a guy who weighs upwards of 500 lbs.  Impressive caboose, too.

This is the dissipation, anyway, of a man who's going to pitch for 15 years.

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=== Dr's Diagnosis ===

Pryor has thrown strikes everywhere he's been; apparently he hasn't been hitting spots with Jamie Moyer surgical precision, but that's fine.  It didn't do you any good that Troy Percival was wild inside the strike zone.

Pryor's motion is "sincere" and without pretention; he gets his belly button into the action and he uses the C.C. Sabathia-sized core greatly to his advantage.  He's not looking at great command inside the zone with such a max effort, but then again you're not talking about Dan Quisenberry here.  You're talking about 99 MPH, strike one.

Would like to see him continue to keep the eyes moving toward the catcher better.  That said, two thumbs way up.  There will be a rookie Pyror and a 4th-year Pryor, and the rookie Pryor looks ready to roll.

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BABVA,

Dr D

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It's a rock and roll motion, Doc. And smooth on the rock.

He rocks back onto that ack leg, gets into that straight line position, and then just unrolls to the plate: Leg, hips/shoulder, arm.

I'm glad you mentioned the glutes, too.

This is smooth-easy/powerful-low stress (as much as 100 MPH can be).

Sam Snead, if he threw a ball. Or Freddy Couples.

Those kind of motions last forever.

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Bat571I tend to agree, Spec, but with just the slight hope that Peguero's worked hard enough to turn it around. Giving it one more shot while also trying to shake things up a bit doesn't seem all that bad an idea to me. Then if he goes down (literally) swinging, it would be without regret.49 min ago
SpectatorI, personally, don't care if C-Peg is claimed. i don't think he has major-league value. And if we need OF insurance, I like Abe Almonte. I think F.Martinez would be claimed as well, and that wouldn't break my heart, but I do think some team would grab him and stick him on their 40-man. Z might finally be ready to do that, but I don't think it's easy for him. Apparently they won't be announcing the 40-man move until tomorrow.55 min 12 sec ago
Bat571As to pitching, I think it rides on how Bonderman does tonight. Beaven has pitched better each outing since going down, so it will be either Bonderman if he shows 7-8 inning stuff, or Blake coming up to replace Harang by next Monday/Tuesday's start56 min 8 sec ago
Bat571Then if Peguero can't keep his Ks reasonable, he's had his chance and we move on - but it looks to me as if he's made a real effort to improve and ought to get a chance - and if he and Morse could get something going it would be fun to watch.1 hour 7 min ago
Bat571I'd sign Chavez to a "somewhat high" deal ($2.0mil / 2 yrs??) so that he would no longer be viewed as "free" if he were to go on waivers to go to Tacoma. He's a dandy 4th/5th OF who contributes pretty steadily, if never powerfully, and seems to like it here. He might be willing to accept assignment knowing what the score is. Then I'd try to get him through after a flurry of claims have other teams sorting out their own rosters, like right now. Then I'd call up Peguero until Guti is ready to come back. Saunders is doing fine in CF, and both Bay and Pegs could play in an emergency until Endy could come back up, but Pegs has his K% rate down to 26.4% (lower than Thames or Liddi, BTW) and we need some vitality and more thump. Peguero and Franklin for now, with Tenbrink and Romero told to keep it up and they're next.1 hour 11 min ago
SABR MattI think someone would claim Peguero...and we might need him to back up at CF if something happens to Chavez...so no, I would not DFA Pegs...I'd DFA Martinez.1 hour 38 min ago
SpectatorDrayer says I'm wrong and it won't be Harang or Andino, but someone in the minors. In theory they could move Hultzen to the 60-day since he's already been out 30+ days and hasn't started throwing yet. Or, as others have suggested, F.Martinez or Catricala could be cut. I'd kiss off Carlos Peguero myself. Guess we'll see.2 hours 3 min ago
SABR MattThat is officer thinking there G. Sucre is the perfect transition back-up catcher for that reason. You can drop Martinez off the roster to make room...then DFA Andino and calll up Franklin soon...after which you would DFA Harang and call up Bonderman3 hours 21 min ago
moethedogAbsolutely G. Give him the 1st Maurer start. Get his feet wet.3 hours 34 min ago
Gordon GrossSucre's caught Paxton, Walker, Maurer and Hultzen over the last year. We could do worse than promote an actual backup catcher with experience dealing with the Pitchers of the Future and who can throw a dude out.3 hours 44 min ago
blissedj"A bat-first DH/1B who can catch in a pinch has lots of value." Yes, would love a Mike Napoli on our team!3 hours 45 min ago
moethedogNot much pop for Sucre: In his last 600 AA/AAA AB's hes had 20 doubles and 2 homers. But he's thrown out 52%, 44% and 37% the last 3 years. Congrats to him. It's a funny move to not do alongside releasing Andino, which was a more immediate need. Perhaps that is next. Montero will probably not catch much more down there than he did here. It's an interesting dilemma. W/O lots of reps, he will never become a full-time MLB catcher. he won't get those reps with Zunino in the same house, nor should he. He should focus on the bat. A bat-first DH/1B who can catch in a pinch has lots of value.3 hours 51 min ago
rick82If we are going to continue to compete, we have to let some of these poor performers regress to the mean. Look at Brendan Ryan. Dude has put up a 1.023 OPS since we left Seattle for New York. So, yes, it's probably getting close to replacing him in the lineup with Franklin because he isn't going to keep that up. But Harang - Harang is gonna bust out with some good outings in June.3 hours 52 min ago
Gordon GrossSucre has a miniscule ISO the last couple years, but he's an okay hitter. It's like having Triunfel behind the plate. This means Shoppach is gonna be catching a lot, so hopefully he can keep hitting. And yeah, I wanna see what happens to the 40-man roster.4 hours 15 min ago
SABR Mattthe compensation 40=man roster move will be interesting. Sucre might actually be a better hitter than Montero right now...at least he doesn't strike out 25+% of his PA. The next step is to do something about Harang.4 hours 20 min ago
rick82Gotta have at least one Jesus on your roster, right?4 hours 20 min ago
Gordon GrossSo we ARE swapping Montero to AAA for Sucre, confirmed on the Mariners' site. Congrats to Sucre!4 hours 23 min ago
rick82I like the idea of Montero becoming a masher at first and DH, and offering the added benefit of being a 3rd catcher so that our manager has, or feels he has, greater flexibility in the latter innings. Of course, in those latter innings, it would be Montero who would be the first guy taken out if a pinch runner is needed.4 hours 52 min ago
rick82I am fine with giving Harang a few more starts. He had a pretty good season last year, and his stats suggest he's due for a regression. His back problem made him somewhat rusty for his last start. In 2007, Jeff Weaver gave us a very good June between a horrific April-May and July on. Weaver wasn't nearly as good a pitcher coming into Seattle as Harang was (the latter posted a 105 ERA+ for the Dodgers last year), post-season heroics aside. I'd like to see Paxton get past the 6th inning in under 100 pitches at least once before getting called up, but if he can't, there's still lots of goodness there for a July callup. I'd be delighted with a Paxton callup, but I can wait, and prefer to wait, until the M's are comfortable with it.4 hours 55 min ago
Gordon GrossNo, man, thank YOU for the convo. :-) terry - I trade Triunfel. Bad mental makeup + only one skill (hit tool is okay, but D at SS isn't any better than Franklin, hits righty, doesn't walk, doesn't have much power, no baserunning plusses) means that if his hit tool struggles for a bit he gives you NOTHING. And his previous attitude issues don't make you think he can handle struggling very well. Plus we have Miller and Taylor on his heels, and he'll be a FA shortly. Not worth the hassle of trying to keep a spot for him, IMO. I could be wrong, and I am a hater, as I said before. ;-)5 hours 8 min ago