SSI HOT SEAT - mini Mariners 8

Talia Shire "can't bear to watch" Dept.

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HOT SEAT:  Wells and Bay trade spinning backheels to the jaw on days 1 and 2.  Both fall simultaneously.  CREED WILL RETAIN HIS TITLE!  IF NEITHER OF THEM CAN ....

Dr. D:  You know what's really going on in spring training, right?

Imagine if Baseball Prospectus had a little metric column that said "Bat Launch," and indexed it to average, and some hitters were at 120 and some at 80.  If they could bottle that stat and get the distributing license, their yearly subscription would be $129.95.  Wow!  Alvin Davis was always at 127, but this year suddenly he's at 79.  Better not draft that kid.

But that's what Wedge, and the other boots on the ground, are doing.  They're watching the players physically.  They're looking at body language, spring in the step, and using their intuition to grok whether a player is prepared for an UP or DWN season.

They're not always right.  But any fan who doesn't RESPECK' it is kidding himself.

We know who Wells is.  Jason Bay is an ol' friend who had a beer with Capt Jack and got an invite.  The HR score is 1-1 and Bay is wayyyyy ahead.

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I know nobody axed me, but if anybody did, the M's got no bidness in this barrio.  Stubbing out Casper Wells in order to take one last roach-clipped toke off Jason Bay, that's letting your heart think for your head.  No way in the world, man, esPECIally now that the RBI's are in the bank for this ballclub.

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HOT SEAT:  Morse putting on Russ Branyan-type displays in batting practice, sending the tailgaters scrambling under their plastic awnings ... and then going out into the game and rifling a shot into right-center field for a single.

Dr. D:  I never, ever, wever say "I told you so."  You've been reading a long time.  You know I'm above that, and especially above declaring victory on February 24th.

"Average Player."  What a JOKE.  :- P   

SAT comparison problem:  Michael Morse is to Bret Boone -- as -- Gimli is to ______ (Samwise Gamgee).  ... 'twas the last time we had an MMA-compatible cleanup hitter who shortened up with two strikes.

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HOT SEAT:  Super Slo-sMoak with a notable lefty homer.

Dr. D:  No word on whether it busted out a light slow-motion, sparks flying into Robert Duvall and a girlfriend in the stands taking 20 seconds to raise her hands to her cheeks.  But it's the first game of spring training, so no.  The lights weren't on.

Some guys actually do blast out of the gate, based on a revolutionary winter; I remember one year Butch Wynegar spent the winter hitting off 6' video recordings of pitchers in his barn, ripped up spring training, and had a big year.

Interest factor slight to moderate.  Check back in five games.  If Smoak really is slugging .700 a week from now, eyes slideways.  But he probably won't be.

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Dr. D!  You are Off the Hot Seat,

Lonnie of MC

 

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Comments

Except I admit that just yesterday I started thinking that maybe Bay was a good pickup. I'm not saying that I think he was just that I always figured the chance to be so low as not to be worth really noting but now I'm a bit more intrigued. At the time it was an ok crap shoot, then Ibanez signed and Morse was acquired, then the revelation that Morse was slated for OF duty mainly. I'd have been pretty happy with the outfield outlook without Bay, but I'm watching a bit closer now.

Hultzen throwing the ball 7 times to get 2 K's and a weak grounder was pretty eye opening. 1 walk given up by the whole staff too. If we ignore Noesi (since hardly anyone is hoping for him) so far the guys battling to start have been phenomenal. If it keeps up I'll start combining the stats, but it's so early.

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Bay hit his off Tyson Ross, who's big problem is control and not stuff, and he hit it off a 95 mph fastball after Wells struck out. Wells hit his off a 28 year old that reached AAA for the second time last season. I don't know anything about Brandon Kloess (Wells' victim), but he was the 5th guy the Padres ran out. Friday, the Mariners ran out Chance Ruff in, and Saturday they ran out Bobby Laframboise, and neither of those guys are making the bullpen out of camp, and neither are going to be the first callup if someone gets hurt (both could admittedly hand an ML bullpen role, but this is the Mariners Bullpen of Ultimate doom we're talking about).

The point is, if Bay looks like 95% of his old .900 self, if he can pull an .850 OPS over 400 or so PA, well, would you rather have Reggie Sanders or Chris Young? I don't know if there is a right answer.

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Bat571Well, it doesn't look like Bonderman is an answer.4 hours 28 min ago
moethedogGuti: O-3 Montero: 0-1 Franklin gets another hit, Tenbrink bonks a homer. That guy is growing on me. He's played 5 in games at 1B, 12 at 2B, 9 at 3B, 8 in LF, 8 in CF and 5 in RF. He's made 2 errors at 2B....that's it. 134 AB's (with another to come tonight): 5 doubles, 2 triples and 5 homers. He had 20 X-base hits in 152 AB's at AA last year. He has had 62 in 597 career AA AB's. Walks 100 pts, too. Here's your utility guy, guys. He's playing in Seattle this year. Mark it down.5 hours 55 sec ago
SABR MattI would definitely agree that Triunfel's lack of exposure to other positions besides SS/2B calls into question whether the org really wants him as a UTL guy...which I find a little odd...but maybe they don't think he can hit enough. Oh wait...who's our UTL guy right now? :)5 hours 37 min ago
phxterryMoe - I am beginning to doubt if the M's Brain Trust is ever going to promote Triunfel, whose highest and best use seems to be infield utility player. If the M's were planning on making him an infield utility player in the bigs, wouldn't they be playing him some at 3B right now in Tacoma? Because for sure, the M's Brass does not envisage Triunfel as a future full-time SS in the bigs. Just my random thought.8 hours 32 min ago
phxterryPreachin to the choir, Moe, what can I say that hasn't already been said.8 hours 39 min ago
phxterryOK - matt - just my gallows humor. Glad to see that you and I agree that Wedgie is not a good enough manager to be re-signed for next year so we don't have to beat that dead horse any more.8 hours 41 min ago
moethedogIf the M's are making no positional changes in the 25-Man, per baker, then we're all in on Ryan as a SS and letting Ackley hack his way to his former self. I would think that we've decided that we can enhance Ryan's trade value by playing him every day and hoping that by the AS game somebody will need a great glove .200 hitting SS. It is highly unlikely that he is back with us next year. I think we over estimate his real baseball world value. All the same, moving Andino, sho has no real baseball workd value for Franklin still makes sense. Giving Franklin 4 starts a week at this level is much better for his development than 6 starts a week in Tacoma. You could give him two starts at SS, one at 2B and one as a DH vs. RHP without denting Ryan's trade-in value, as it were. throw in the odd 3B start for him and you would still be allowing Ackley to hack his way to health. You just might find that Franklin can mash a bit, too. Alas. Sigh. Go team.8 hours 46 min ago
SABR MattAlright Terry...take it easy man...your fun facts are about as fun as a root canal. :)9 hours 11 min ago
phxterryM's Fun Fact: July 13 is Dustin Ackley night at the Safe. Rumor has it that gift being handed out is a bat that fits perfectly on your shoulder and never moves.9 hours 12 min ago
phxterryPer Baker, no more changes to 25 man roster for now. Perhaps pitching change in a couple of days, but no changes in position players planned. So we get to enjoy the futility of Dustin Ackley & the veteran goodness that is Andino for a while longer. No signs of urgency coming from the M's Brain Trust .... I personally would be happy if I never saw Andino, Bay, Chavez & Rauuuul play in Mariner uniforms again. I'd rather watch Franklin, Triunfel, Thames, Liddi & Peguero. Let the Wookies Play!9 hours 43 min ago
moethedogThe fact that the 40-man move will be made tomorrow is interesting. If it is a straight waiver move, what will we know tomorrow that we don't know today? Martinez or Vinnie Cat or Pegs or Harang aren't morphing into something else overnight. But if we have a trade in the works, then 24 hours gives you time to ink the deal. Worth pondering......11 hours 10 min ago
Bat571I tend to agree, Spec, but with just the slight hope that Peguero's worked hard enough to turn it around. Giving it one more shot while also trying to shake things up a bit doesn't seem all that bad an idea to me. Then if he goes down (literally) swinging, it would be without regret.12 hours 18 min ago
SpectatorI, personally, don't care if C-Peg is claimed. i don't think he has major-league value. And if we need OF insurance, I like Abe Almonte. I think F.Martinez would be claimed as well, and that wouldn't break my heart, but I do think some team would grab him and stick him on their 40-man. Z might finally be ready to do that, but I don't think it's easy for him. Apparently they won't be announcing the 40-man move until tomorrow.12 hours 25 min ago
Bat571As to pitching, I think it rides on how Bonderman does tonight. Beaven has pitched better each outing since going down, so it will be either Bonderman if he shows 7-8 inning stuff, or Blake coming up to replace Harang by next Monday/Tuesday's start12 hours 25 min ago
Bat571Then if Peguero can't keep his Ks reasonable, he's had his chance and we move on - but it looks to me as if he's made a real effort to improve and ought to get a chance - and if he and Morse could get something going it would be fun to watch.12 hours 36 min ago
Bat571I'd sign Chavez to a "somewhat high" deal ($2.0mil / 2 yrs??) so that he would no longer be viewed as "free" if he were to go on waivers to go to Tacoma. He's a dandy 4th/5th OF who contributes pretty steadily, if never powerfully, and seems to like it here. He might be willing to accept assignment knowing what the score is. Then I'd try to get him through after a flurry of claims have other teams sorting out their own rosters, like right now. Then I'd call up Peguero until Guti is ready to come back. Saunders is doing fine in CF, and both Bay and Pegs could play in an emergency until Endy could come back up, but Pegs has his K% rate down to 26.4% (lower than Thames or Liddi, BTW) and we need some vitality and more thump. Peguero and Franklin for now, with Tenbrink and Romero told to keep it up and they're next.12 hours 40 min ago
SABR MattI think someone would claim Peguero...and we might need him to back up at CF if something happens to Chavez...so no, I would not DFA Pegs...I'd DFA Martinez.13 hours 7 min ago
SpectatorDrayer says I'm wrong and it won't be Harang or Andino, but someone in the minors. In theory they could move Hultzen to the 60-day since he's already been out 30+ days and hasn't started throwing yet. Or, as others have suggested, F.Martinez or Catricala could be cut. I'd kiss off Carlos Peguero myself. Guess we'll see.13 hours 33 min ago
SABR MattThat is officer thinking there G. Sucre is the perfect transition back-up catcher for that reason. You can drop Martinez off the roster to make room...then DFA Andino and calll up Franklin soon...after which you would DFA Harang and call up Bonderman14 hours 50 min ago
moethedogAbsolutely G. Give him the 1st Maurer start. Get his feet wet.15 hours 4 min ago