December 2009

  • Price Enforcing on Bay

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    Lessee, 80% of 16.5 is . . .Lessee, 80% of 16.5 is . . .Baker, once again, with a fine feel for what was really going on in the Jason Bay sweepstakes.

    In 5x5 roto with $260 budgets, Shandler disciples spend the first 50% of the draft "price enforcing."   They don't want to buy players early; they want to buy them late in the draft, when values are usually better.

    But neither do they want Mikey Jay picking up a string of $26 Jason Bay's for $17.  So they use the 80% principle:  if Bay is worth $26 (and he is), Shandler disciples will consistently bid $21 for him.  Once you get to $22, fine, let the chips fall where they may.

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  • POTD Shawn Kelley

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    No luck needed here, ladsNo luck needed here, lads=== Hist-O-Gram ===

    After we saw Kelley on April 3, 2009*, here was our postgame on the lad.  The first impression being:

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  • Blow 'em away or Get 'em fishing?

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    Here is an article by Carson Cistulli, following Matt Hanna, in which he finds that you can identify high-K, dominating pitchers more easily by looking for pitchers who can induce fishing outside the strike zone. 

    As Jeff Sullivan has emphasized, K/9 can be predicted from swinging-strike percentage.  (Don't get carried away; you can predict a hitter's AVG too, from his K rate, but it's not an absolute.)

    In essence, Hanna found that he could better predict "Expected Strikeout Percentage" by weighting "fishing" strikes against "in the zone" strikes.

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  • 2009 Year End Wrap Up

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    "2009 - Return of the Ancient Mariners"


    It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. History will remember 2009 as the year the world barely dodged the second Great Depression. As the World Series was wrapping up near the end of '08, the financial turmoil in the American and global economy was an apt commentary on what had happened to the Mariners during 2008. After breezing to an (illusory) 88 wins in 2007, blind optimism reigned as Bedard (Oh Boy!) and Silva (oh, God no) joined the club. The club tanked to 101 losses and the Bavasi era ended, as Jack Zduriencik took the reigns of the Mariner franchise in October of 2008.

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  • Aardsma deal

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    Jordan s free throw trickJordan s free throw trickQ.  So what would you do with Aardsma?

    A.  Assuming that there was a team that bought into his closing, I'd deal him, and right now.

    But if that's not possible, hey. 

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  • POTD David Aardsma part 1

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    Jordan s free throw trickJordan s free throw trickQ.  What was that over at the Bakery?

    A.  Geoff Baker with an interesting column in which he proposes that David Aardsma is a more valuable pitcher to the M's than is Mark Lowe.

    His main salvo:  that Aardsma gets ton more K's.  That's fair, and it's also something that SSI has been ignoring.

    Hm.  Aardsma is a 10-K-per-game pitcher.  Another outside-the-box point by Geoffy.  Let's have a look...

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  • POTD David Aardsma part 2

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    Part 1

    Q.  Is Aardsma any good?

    A.  Sure he is.  He's a white-knuckle power reliever.  There's a place for every pitcher who can strike out 10 men per game.

    We're not trying to draw Disney pastel cartoon characters here.  Guys who fan 10, and walk 5, have a role.

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    Jordan s free throw trickJordan s free throw trickQ.  Why is he good?

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  • Where's the Cleanup Hitter, Cap

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    Ms in AL West ... Long GoneMs in AL West ... Long GoneQ.  What are the salaries for Gonzalez and Fielder again?

    A.  Thusly:

    AGone 2010:  $4.7m

    AGone 2011: $5.6m

    AGone 2010:  Free agent

    Fielder 2010:  $11m

    Fielder 2011:  6th arb year (figure $12-13m)

    Fielder 2012:  Free agent (rep'ed by Scott Boras)

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  • The Meaning of Bay's Contract in Seattle

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    Give yer my 25 for your 25Give yer my 25 for your 25Q.  So, why wouldn't the M's take advantage of Bay's desire to play here?

    A.  I don't doubt for a second that Zduriencik, like Taro and others, disliked

    1. Bay's RH flyball bat in Safeco
    2. Bay's age at the end of the contrat
    3. The fact that Bay isn't a plus defender

    Add those things up, and I will cheerfully admit that this might not be the guy you want to build around -- and that Zduriencik might well have been reasoning this way.

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  • Bay to the Mets

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    OhMarr - whatcha doin there manOhMarr - whatcha doin there manQ.  Is Bay's contract an overpay?  What is the reasonable range of what Bay should make, from the highest bidder?

    A.  It certainly is not an "overpay" in terms of annual salary.  I think that the fifth, vesting, year was a premium that the Mets paid to git r done.

    I guess you could argue that the Mets like to throw marquee names at their fans, and that their valuation "doesn't count," at least not as much as ours do.  ;- )

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  • Angels Kamakazi the West

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    Arte Moreno has apparently decided that if his ship is going down, it's going down in a spectacular ball of flames.  The Angels have signed Fernando Rodney to a 2 year 11 million dollar contract to apparently complete their off-season in spectacular failure.  I say their off-season is complete because, as I will show momentarily, they are now essentially out of money and are left with possibly trading for one more mediocre starting pitcher or signing other bit payers.


    Here is the new Angels Payroll for 2010 and 2011

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    • CF) Torii hunter: 18.5 / 18.5

    • OF) Gary Matthews Jr.: 11.4 / 12.4

    • SP) Scott Kazmir: 8.0 / 12.0

    • RF) Bobby Abreu: 9.0 / 9.0

    • SP) Ervin Santana: 6.0 / 8.0

    • RP) Fernando Rodney: 5.5 / 5.5

    • C) Mike Napoli: 3.5 (arb 2) / 5.5 (arb 3)

    • CL) Brian Fuentes: 9.0 / FA

    • LF) Juan Rivera: 3.2 / 3.3
  • Bermuda Triangle of British Columbia

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    How many professional ballplayers are from British Columbia?  I don't know.  Can't be very many, I imagine.  But somehow three of them have converged into a bizzarro vortex this December: Michael Saunders, Jason Bay and Tyson Gillies.


    These three guys that we've all been spilling pixels over -- they're all from British Columbia.  I don't particularly care, it's just freaky-weird.


    Saunders: I gar-ron-TEE that I was one of the first to tout the potential of young Mr. Saunders here or DOV or whatever it was at the time.  And I do remember one of the first things I said: left-handed (and Canadian) Cammy.  And I have also always said: learning curve.

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  • Beltre to Oakland?

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    Throwin all kindsa stuff by me nowThrowin all kindsa stuff by me nowPer MLBTradeRumors, the A's are very interested in Beltre.  They would need for him (and Boras) to scale back his $10-15m per season price tag, for something designed for 'an Oakland economy sized package.'

    The catch-22 is that if Beltre accommodates Oakland with a value contract, at that point San Francisco, Detroit, and St. Louis are supposed to be interested.

    Odd that the A's, with a hole at 3b, would deal Brett Wallace and then start arguing with Boras about the degree of Beltre's career downslope.

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    === Transition Year ===

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  • HQ on Jose Lopez - 30 HR, .300 AVG next?

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    17 homers, second half 200917 homers, second half 2009=== Caveats & Quid Pro Quo's Dept. ===

    You can order your Forecaster here.  No embedded ad links at SSI, but am sure that Shandler wouldn't mind a bit of linkage in return for our moshing off his work.

    Not that they've gotten on us about it, but am guessing that we'll probably have to start paraphrasing pretty quick here.  General ideas are public domain; I'm a little murkier on infringement issues when you snip 50 words out of a writer's column with link, credit and endorsement.  ;- )  Thoughts?

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  • HQ on League - Next Great Closer?

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    You canNOT be SERious, LAYou canNOT be SERious, LAHQ Riff:  Elite skills masked by aberrant HR/F, Strand %.

    BPV, xERA tell the true story (130 and 2.89 - Dr D).

    The closest 2009 comp for this extreme GB, Power profile?  Some guy named Broxton.  Similarly, with the opportunity...

    UP:  Broxton-esque save totals.

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    SSI Mixing Board:  Usually Ron will wait on a would-be closer.

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  • HQ on Michael Saunders

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    Ask Dr. Roto Dept.Ask Dr. Roto Dept.Just got a copy of HQ under the tree today. Bet you pokeys wish you had wives who gave you Baseball Forecaster for Christmas. :- ) 

    (You can order yours here.  No, we don't have embedded ad links at SSI - just fair play for excerpting a bit of Ron's shtick.)

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    === HQ Riff ===

    0-4-.221 in 122 AB at SEA.  Power skills were nowhere to be found in majors (34 PX), but MLE's suggest there's some pop in his bat.  Speed skills are good, OBP is not.  Has potential, will need some time to reach it.

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  • Eureka 2

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    EurekaEurekaPart 2 is the main part.

    If you think Zduriencik get or trade players based on WPA, WAR or WAR/$ you see only 200 of 1000 bulbs.

    How was Aardsma's or Gutierrez's WPA or WAR 2008?

    How was the projection for 2009 in 2008 when Zduriencik aquiered them?

    Just the results;

    Aardsma and Gutierrez have been the second best players behind Felix and Ichiro in 2009!

    Now let me tell a story about a car dealer. Zduriencik is the GM of a cardealer which sells Lexus. He has 3 managers and 25 salesmen. 23 are OK but 2 are losers with the names A and B. He ask the manager if they can turn the losers to winners through motivation and teaching. The answer was A can turn around but no hope for B. Zduriencik fires B.

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  • Eureka Part 1

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    Eureka1Eureka1

    I think I got how Zduriencik and front office operate.

    1. They use something like WPA or REW to make players accountable.

    The worst 3 players (Pitchers and Offense each) at WPA 2009 have been shown the door.

    Beltre at -1.72, Balentine at -1.44, Cedeno at 1.44

    Morrow at 1.69, Silva at -1.28, Batista at -1.27

    French at -1.10 is still on the roster but I will get on it next.

    This is very important.The pennant is won in part by super players. But it can be won by minimizing players who hurts the team.

     

     

    The players who had WPA under  -1 are:

    Mariners had 7 listed above.

    NYY had 5 Cano Molina Chamberlain Wang and Mitre.

    LAA had only 2 Vlad and Bell.

     

    2. M's FO have patience and do everything to let the player play in good environment.

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  • Dec. 25 Hot Stove

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    Plenty nuff Bavasi prospects leftPlenty nuff Bavasi prospects leftI/O: Corey Brock, at the Padres' site, relays that Kevin Kouzmanoff trade talks have hyper'ed down.   Other commentators wonder if this doesn't mean that they're getting more serious about keeping Gonzalez trade variations open.

    CRUNCH: Brock used to be a local Seattle writer, for those of you who joined us late, and does a good job of separating actual data from his own speculation.  This snippet probably means that the Padres' people that Brock runs into, are reflecting a lack of action on Kouzmanoff.

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  • The Dunn Option, Updated

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    Reinforce the glass, thoughReinforce the glass, thoughI/O:  An Atlanta paper suggests that the Braves, with a hole at 1B, could go after Adrian Gonzalez or Adam Dunn to play 1B.  Just speculation on their part.

    CRUNCH:  Interesting to hear an NL city inquire about the defensively-challenged Dunn, who is one of two or three players in the majors with genuine "80," plus-plus-plus, power.

    Also interesting to hear amigos, who drool over the idea of the 300-lb. Prince Fielder, run screaming into the night over Adam Dunn.  :- )

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  • White Rat Powerflush

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    Give yer my 25 for your 25Give yer my 25 for your 25=== Yo Mick ===

    It's not just Cool Papa Bell and CPB's acolytes, who think that Saunders could become a 5-tool star in the American League.  That is backed by Baseball America's ranking -- and by the fact that the Mariners themselves moved Saunders to the front of the line and got him into Safeco.

    Nobody rated Saunders as less than a premium prospect.   That's because he isn't.  Less than a premium prospect, I mean.  I was skeptical about him -- until I saw him.  

    He's got a lightning-quick bat launch.  He's got an excellent competitive makeup.  He's got tall, lanky leverage on the baseball.  He runs like the wind.

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  • Gillies > Saunders? No wayyyy

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    Better than the PCL no. 4Better than the PCL no. 4A day after we gave him the golfclap, Baker with an even more fascinating report -- that both the Mariners and Phillies valued Tyson Gillies more highly than they valued Michael Saunders.

    The cognitive dissonance is Dr. D's this morning, lads :- )  Is 'cause I believe the following, with high degrees of conviction:

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    Belief 1.  Michael Saunders is one of the 25 best ML-ready prospects in baseball right now

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  • Morrow and Lee Not Linked

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    Say the colour . . .Say the colour . . .=== Sweetness In Seattle, Dept. ===

    Geoff Baker with a tremendous job, as usual, of asking the right people the right questions

    Here's a great example of the value of the fact-finding sector trumping that of our logic-and-speculation sector. :- )  We could have argued all winter about what the logic of the trade was.  Baker found out what it was.

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  • Cognitive Dissonance

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    Say the colour . . .Say the colour . . .A couple of the best analysts on MC/SSI like the idea that Morrow was traded for Lee.  ;- )  The fact that such crack analysts like it, that lends credence to the thought...

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    FWIW, I have never seen business work that way.*  There is a boatload of paperwork involved with million-dollar deals, and you don't let contingencies get away from you at the closing table.  

    You don't sign 45 pages of a million-dollar deal, and wink, and say, okay, we'll probably do that one that YOU like, next week.  You get everything signed at the same time.

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  • Bay Comments

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    Bright Lights, Big LeaguesBright Lights, Big LeaguesSpec' says,

    I think their approach with Bay is "if he falls into our lap as a tremendous bargain, fine; otherwise, pass."  At least that seems to be the way they're treating it.

    Why?

    (1) LF is their flex point: MB will play there some when Jr is the DH.  Saunders some.  Figgins can flex out there when Tui plays 3b.  The ABs you want to spread around Griffey-Saunders-Tui would all be stomped out by Bay.  Otherwise, you're taking Bradley's bat out of the lineup to get those guys in, and that doesn't make sense.  (In other words, LF is covered -- by the sum of your part-time parts.)

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  • M's Still In on Jason Bay?

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    Q.  With Cliff Lee and Brandon League, right now this ballclub has everything except ... what?

    A:  A cleanup hitter.

    This club has:

    • Two aces
    • Talented BOR starters
    • Lockdown relieving
    • Great defense
    • Two All-Star table-setters
    • A lefty number 3 hitter
    • Every position covered except LF
    • Interesting hitters at the bottom of the lineup (Guti, Lopez, 1B, Griff)

    .............

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  • Brandon Morrow for League and Chavez

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    You canNOT be SERious, LAYou canNOT be SERious, LAQ.  What's the bottom line on the trade?

    A.  Most World Series winners have lockdown, HOF-type closers.  Apparently Jack Zduriencik felt it was time to add this piece of the World Series puzzle.

    The value of a KRod, Rivera, or Papelbon is completely invisible to base-out metrics.  It is an example of Zduriencik's feel for the game of baseball.

    Bavasi shared this belief, that a championship team begins in the bullpen.  The 2004 Angels had three terrific lockdown short relievers.

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  • Johermyn Chavez

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    Poor man s Greg HalmanPoor man s Greg HalmanQ.  Is it reasonable to view Chavez as a blue-chip prospect?

    A.  It isn't, no.

    League, we argued Devil's Advocate that it is reasonable to view League as a franchise pillar.

    There is no analogous case to be made, IMHO, that MC/SSI analysts are missing anything on Chavez.

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  • Takin' the Good with the Bad - 1

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    Stars n Scrubs babyStars n Scrubs babySSI has tentatively pegged Jack Zduriencik as one of the best GM's in baseball.

    This is not because SSI views Jack Zduriencik's IQ as >140 and other GMs' IQ's as < 90.  :- )   As you know, SSI considers this general paradigm to be unhelpful. 

    Dr. D has been many sordid and unflattering places in his 47-odd years, and among the seamiest of those places have been the halls of Fortune 500 corporate America, as a consultant / assistant / gofer / whipping boy of executives from level 2 up to level 5.

    Believe him, when he tells you, there is no such thing as a dumb executive.  Not when you are talking about u-p-p-e-r management in a large company. 

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  • Capt Jack's Trades

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    Stars n Scrubs babyStars n Scrubs babyMy least-favorite Zduriencik trades, in order:

    1.  Aaron Heilman for Ronny Cedeno and Garret Olson.  Cedeno and Olson were, in my view, immediate write-offs, as we said at the time.  We don't often say this, but it shouldn't have been hard to realize that these two guys weren't going to contribute.

    2.  Jarrod Washburn for Luke French and Mauricio Robles.  Baseball was aghast at the alternatives turned down, were aghast that Capt Jack liked Luke French, and IMHO they were right.

    Granted, G-Money thinks Robles is the key to the deal.  I understand and respect this position.

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  • Myth on the Morrow

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    Wailing and gnashing of teeth on the Brandon for Brandon swap.  Mostly, this is due to the (IMO - utterly preposterous) idea that Morrow has a shot at becoming a legitimate TOR starter some day.  This belief is built primarily on a PERCEPTION of overpowering stuff with gaudy 10/g K-rates.  This is further buffed by a visual perception of outstanding mechanics.


    The perceptions of how good Morrow is - or might one day be - are built more on hope than of actual production and performance.  In short, the strong tendency with Morrow has been to heavily weight each good performance and blithely dismiss all the bad ones.  Hopefully, I can point out precisely why the perceptions of Morrow have been overly inflated AND explain why Captain Jack likely just dumped a guy who will AT BEST become a palatable set-up guy some day.

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  • X, Y, Z, and W axes

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    When s the giveaway day in 010When s the giveaway day in 010Taro points out, "WAR also underrates relievers slightly.  Yes, Position players and SPs are far more valuable, but elite relievers pitch in much more leveraged situations."

    This leveraging can amount to a factor of about 1.5, in my opinion. 

    For non-closer, #1 setup relievers brought in to put out fires, it might be more than that.  You are not going to see me using WAR to evaluate trades for franchise relievers.

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  • Brian Dopirak

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    Didn t get cheated on this unDidn t get cheated on this unJays' fans are spreading a rumor that the prospect the M's get back is Brian Dopirak.   I don't mind noodling around about meaningless rumors.  Typing is not one of my problems :- )

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    Dopirak is a huge, RH first baseman who in 2004 had the kind of season only four or five Mariners farmhands have ever had.  As a 20-year-old, much younger than his teammates, playing in a pitcher-friendly Midwest League, Dopirak posted an amazing SLG or .593 -- about 40 doubles, and about 40 homers, in 137 games.   Carlos Triunfel wishes he could put those kind of results up.

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  • Perspective

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    Too little return for MorrowToo little return for MorrowA few weeks ago, Jack Zduriencik turned down an offer of Edwin Jackson for Morrow + change. 

    Saying that he didn't want to give up that magnitude of talent, considering Jackson's service time.  (He was willing to give up lesser talent than Morrow's, that is Aumont's and Ramirez', for a pitcher with only 1 year's service time.)

    I think it's safe to say that the Jays deal is not explained by the idea that baseball doesn't know about Brandon Morrow.  And safe to say that Zduriencik plans to get very high return, on-field, from this trade.

    Not publishing the gospel.  Just remindin' about the Jackson deal.

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  • Guys, Guys, Guys

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    Floooooaaaaaaaat . . .Floooooaaaaaaaat . . .It is quite reasonable to view Brandon League as simply a better pitcher than Brandon Morrow.

    I spent, er, wasted my time defending Brandon Morrow's value for how long now?  Fifteen years, has it been?  There are 1,000 hours of my life I'll never get back :- )

    ................

    If League is going to become the next Jonathan Papelbon, OR CERTAINLY if we start hearing about the rotation, well.... League throws every inch as hard as Morrow, and unlike Morrow has his wipeout offspeed game all ready to go.

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  • Jonathan Arencibia

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    Gimme da 88 tube pitch, meatGimme da 88 tube pitch, meatIf Arencibia be the prospect coming to the M's, here is the MLB scouting profile on him, coming out of college.  Arencibia was projected to go in the first few rounds, but the Jays grabbed him with the #21 overall.

    Exec sum of the MLB scouting report:  Arencibia is below-par defensively, definitely has raw power, but really does nothing else well.  (As it happens, his minor-league offensive performance has been consistent with this.)

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  • POTD Brandon League

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    You canNOT be SERious, LAYou canNOT be SERious, LABrandon Morrow, in his last outing, got the ends of his fingers slightly more on top of the baseball at release, per Adair's gospel.  He threw, IIRC, a 1-hit shutout with 10k's (or something very similar). 

    That outing is entirely reproducible.  Just a quick visual to twist the knife a bit.  ;- )

    If he is indeed moving out for Brandon League and a prospect, we can see three completely different scenarios in which this helps the Mariners win their next pennant:

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  • The Salary Balance, Bradley-Silva

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    Senor SeeyaSenor SeeyaI know we're all eager to throw Capt Jack an election campaign, and I think he's great too.  If we could take a breath for a second, though, and look at it calmly, this looks like a very intelligent, and favorable, trade for the Cubbies.

    You can view the trade from this angle:  money-wise, it is as though both teams continued to pay their own players, but the M's paid the Cubs $4.5m to loan Bradley to them over the next two years, while they loan Silva to the Cubs the next two years. 

    That is hair-fine in its equity, and suits the Cubs very well:

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  • POTD Achilles, On the Field

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    Hit em here amigoHit em here amigoQ.  How good was he in 2007-08?

    A.  He had a batting line of 310/425/550, in 750 plate appearances across 24 months.

    In terms of HR rate, walk rate, doubles rate, speed ... he was a switch-hitting Edgar Martinez.  With a few more dings and few less walks.

    He was Matt Holliday, if Holliday had a little more OBP.

    He was Jason Bay, if you added 30 points of AVG, OBP and SLG.

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  • POTD Achilles, Off-Field - 1

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    You GAVE us the edge of your SWORD JeredYou GAVE us the edge of your SWORD JeredAgamemnon:  "We can't control Achilles!  He's as likely to fight US as the Trojans!"

    Sage:  We don't need to control him.  We need to UNLEASH him!

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    Q.  Is it possible to draw a bead on the Milton Bradley template, without personally knowing the man?

    A.  In my opinion, yes, if you've spent some time in the sort of place in which Bradley grew up, the Bradley personality is not unfamiliar.

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    Q.  Is that PC?

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  • POTD Achilles, Off-Field - 2

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    Part 1

    My best against your best, MikeMy best against your best, MikeQ.  Do you like Milton Bradley, Doc?

    A.  Sure.  I think he's cool, as far as his personality.

    The 1970's-ff Oakland Raiders built a dynasty, in part, out of taking misfits and giving them a home.  Ted Hendricks, Lyle Alzado, Lester Hayes, Jim Plunkett, guys like that ... the Raiders just didn't care how they acted off the field.

    John Madden dealt with this collection of berserkers by telling them they had two rules:  show up to practice on time, and play like crazy when I tell you to.

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  • POTD Achilles, Off-Field - 3

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    Part 1

    Part 2

    Tomorrow we ll have our warTomorrow we ll have our warQuotes continued...

    “There's always race in everything. You see, that's another thing, white people never want to see race with anything. There's race involved in baseball. That's why there is less than 9 percent African-American representation in the game.”

    This factor, from Bradley's point of view, is non-negotiable.

    I wonder, BTW, at exactly what point the 9% figure was accurate.  1962?

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  • Carping on Carp

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    A-Gon.  Nick Johnson.  Branyan.  LaRoche.

    Every other day someone is pushing the idea of some 1B import to come and pump up the offense for the Ms.  And in nearly every case, the idea that the Ms "might" have a LONG TERM 1B option nearly ready in AAA as we speak isn't mentioned.  I appear to be the only guy on the planet, (except perhaps Captain Jack), who believes that Carp is being SEVERELY under-rated by the masses.  So, I thought I'd explain why I believe this.

    The obvious:  He's a high OBP 1B with some power, (which is exactly what Johnson and LaRoche are).  He's also effectively free of charge.  He turns 24 next June, so still 3 years away from peak. 

    The subtle: 

    In 2005, as a 19-year-old in A-ball, Carp posted a .249/.358/.476/.834 line with 19 HRs in only 89 games (313 ABs).  He *HAS* power.  But, he also had a 35/96 BB/K split.

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  • Stone: Silva for Bradley straight up

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    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010540975_shocker_mariners_trading_carlo.html


    Carlos Silva for Milton Bradley is the report.  Money almost matches up: $4M difference over the next two years.


    So there's your veteran outfielder, and another guy who draws a lot of walks.  Question is whether he'll be walking off the field under an umpire's supervision.


    Another curveball from Z.


    UPDATE: Now official: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/marinersblog/2010541230_mariners_officially_announce_m.html

  • More Buzz

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    Stars n Scrubs babyStars n Scrubs babyIt sure seems to me that if they really wanted Jason Bay (as in "really, really") they could have signed him by now.  Z seems to be sufficiently lukewarm that's willing to wait out Bay and see if a better fit doesn't develop.  Also a sign, I think, that they are high on Saunders.

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  • SSI Cliff Lee Top 10 Comps List - 1

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    Aces 1 and 1aAces 1 and 1a=== Baseball-Reference.com Comps ===

    If you look up the guys that B-Ref.com has as comps for Lee, they're not much use.  The list of 10 has an aggregate ERA+ of 105, because James' formula uses career totals.  Cliff Lee, of course, was one pitcher before 2008, and another pitcher after 2008.

    John Burkett, Kirk Reuter and Charles Nagy are in there because they didn't walk many guys.   But as you can see, "doesn't walk many guys" is not a defining characteristic of a pitcher family.

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  • SSI Cliff Lee Top 10 Comps List - 2

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    Part 1

    Aces 1 and 1aAces 1 and 1a=== Caveat Emptor Dept. ===

    There is one major problemo with the above comps. 

    True, they all match well in fastball velocity.  They match well in that, as a group, they had plus command.  And they all had superb control ratios. 

    The first thing you notice here, is that most of them finished their careers with ERA+ of around 110-115.

    Cliff Lee, of course, just finished posting two ERA+ a whale of a lot better than that:  he was 131 last year, and 168 (!) the year before that.

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  • SSI Cliff Lee Top 10 Comps List - 3

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    Aces 1 and 1aAces 1 and 1a=== Lesson Learned #1 ===

    At first, seeing the unimpressive 110-115 career ERA+'s of this group, I was a little afraid that maybe Spit-Polish Lefties didn't throw 140 ERA's, except when Perfect Storms occurred in their careers here and there.

    That is not the case.  Got-the-Whole-Package 90mph Lefties aren't limited to the #2 slot in the rotation.  Most of these guys were well capable of pitching Opening Day -- when healthy.

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  • Let's take stock, shall we?

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    I'd just like to take a step into the "wav back" machine and take a look at the Mariner depth charts at the moment of Jack Zduriencik's inception as GM - side by side with the current Mariner depth chart assuming the Cliff Lee deal does indeed get finalized tomorrow morning.  We'll use italics to represent players you cannot win your next pennant with, and bold to represent players you can without question win your next pennant with.  For minor leaguers this is based primarily on the odds of that players making some positive major league contribution within a short time period.

    Catchers:

    1. Kenji Johjima - Adam Moore
    2. Jeff Clement - Eliezer Alfonzo
    3. Rob Johnson - Rob Johnson
    4. Jamie Burke - Travis Scott
    5. Adam Moore - Jose Yepez

    First Basemen:

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  • Erik Bedard Question

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    Surfing the internet, we came across this quote from Bedard last August:

    "I want to come back. I said that months before the surgery," he said. "But I don't know what their feelings are now. I'm sure we'll talk at some point."

    Which is exactly where Ken Griffey Jr. was.

    ..............

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  • Adrian Gonzalez Rumors

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    Tough crowd out EastTough crowd out EastAn article by Nick Cafardo in Boston states that the Padres have offered Adrian Gonzalez to the Red Sox for:

    1.  RHP Clay Buchholz

    2.  RHP Casey Kelly or OF Ryan Westmoreland (Sox' choice)

    And that the deal is not going through, because Kelly and Westmoreland are both untouchable in a Gonzalez deal.

    To which we can confidently respond, "huh?"

    ............

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  • Left 4 Dead

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    Just a coupla more shovelfuls . . .Just a coupla more shovelfuls . . .Jayson Stark and Tim Kjurkian (sp) were marvelling, on ESPN, that 3 of the game's 10 best starting pitchers each left their teams in one 24-hour day.  Has that ever happened before?

    Not only is it thunderously rare (maybe unique) for 3 such prize horses to bolt their stables all at the same moment.... but it so happened that each of the 3 were direct knees to one single team's man region:

    ............

    1.  John Lackey, genuinely the guts of their 6-year* division stranglehold, left.

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  • Cliff Lee beyond 2010

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    What s the 81st mill do anyway, broWhat s the 81st mill do anyway, broJust guessin' tonight, but hey.  It's a baseball chat.  Here's more guessin'.

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    === Extension ===

    Word is that the Phillies asked Lee about an extension and his agent stood firm at "5, 6 years, Sabathia dollars."   Meaning 20-23 mills per.

    Remember, though, it's a new league for Lee.  And it's a town he had been in for a couple months, and if you've ever been to Philly, it's not the most livable city in America.  No offense, but it's easy to imagine that Lee didn't particularly want to play in Philadelphia.

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  • Sackcloth and Ashes in LA

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    No crying in baseball, pokeysNo crying in baseball, pokeysAnd I'm lovin' it.  Mwahahahah.   Geoffy with the hookups, me cherrypicking a few faves:

    .......

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  • Which prospects to trade?

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    4th outfielder and then some4th outfielder and then someIf you like Baseball America, you'll love Jay Yencich's analyses of the M's minor leagues.

    It sort of reminds us of Bill James, back in the late 80's, warning his most hardcore fans... hey, if you live in Cleveland, you're going to know more about the Indians than I do.  But I'll try to help you out on the other 29 teams.  (Bill often pointed out stuff we didn't know about the Mariners, too, of course.)

    Baseball America has some crack analysts, but there is no way that any national analyst is going to keep up with Jay on the M's minor leaguers.  If you pay $6 for a copy of Baseball America off the newsstand, consider yourself extra fortunate for this read.

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  • Cliff Lee Thread

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    Stars n Scrubs babyStars n Scrubs babyJust got home to find out that Capt Jack mighta landed a Star to end all stars.  Man.  Gimme Cliff Lee over John Lackey any day.

    Only have a coupla mins, so... the SSI quick-take is:

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    === Comps ===

    Seven strikeouts and 1+ walks is a template.  Greg Maddux and Cliff Lee are in it.  Also Dan Haren.

    Brad Radke, Jamie Moyer et al don't count.  Cliff Lee is not a soft-tosser.  He's not standing in a pub trying to shave the triple-20's.

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  • Stars and Scrubs thinking

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    Stars n Scrubs babyStars n Scrubs babyIf folks pencil out this move according to the same standards used to evaluate the Erik Bedard trade, it will undoubtedly look like a disaster.  

    If the M's give up several young talents for Lee, they'll obviously take a pounding within the Net Performance Profit paradigm.  I mean, if Michael Saunders provides you even two years of mediocrity, that's $20m performance profit right there.   All of the Adam Joneses and Carlos Gomezes of the world turn you the $8m, $10m yearly profit just by being average.

    ....

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  • What's News, Dec. 14

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    CrrrrunchCrrrrunch=== DH Options ===

    Intriguing young TTO outcast available for the grabbin'.  Hm.

    The thought is floated that a guy like Jonny Gomes couldn't get serious AB's at DH in Seattle, the logic being that Junior blockades the Port of Bench Bats.

    Very good, except that in 2009, the Mariners did exactly that.  Mike Sweeney and Junior were on the same roster all year long.  There are a few guys in the majors who play less defense than Sweeney, but they want out of Washington D.C.

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  • POTD Jonny Gomes

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    Ahhhh, we re just playinAhhhh, we re just playin=== Jonny Gomes Non-Tendered ===

    Let's say that you were looking for a Three True Outcomes muscleman who fit the following criteria:

    1. 60-to-160 EYE
    2. 27-30 HR per 162 (so far)
    3. 435 feet is routine when he gets his pitch

    You can't use Jack Cust, because Cust's EYE is a reliable 0.50; Jack Cust walks a ton.  Like 100-120 times per full season.  Extreeeeeeme pitch stalker.

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  • POTD Adam LaRoche

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    115 OPS+ at 1B or LF115 OPS+ at 1B or LFQ.  Would LaRoche get two thumbs up, or two thumbs down, from SSI?

    A.  As a consolation prize for a marquee bat like Jason Bay, Adrian Gonzalez, or even a Carl Crawford -- paid 3/$32m to hit fourth -- two huge thumbs down.

    As an upgrade to a Nick Johnson concept -- taking a much smaller contract -- he could help the M's win a championship.

    As a replacement for Russell Branyan -- he'd be a melancholy, but logical, risk management plan.  Where Branyan could give you $1.00 or $0.01 cent, LaRoche locks in the $0.50 cents.  Like two backgammon players splitting the value of the doubling cube, Adam LaRoche "settles" the Branyan cube.

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  • SABR Matt's POTD: Chien-Ming Wang

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    Wang Needs a CrutchWang Needs a CrutchWith talk flying around the Mariner blog-o-sphere including raves from Jason Churchill and a generally positive vibe in most circles regarding Chien-Ming Wang (recently non-tendered by the mighty Yanks), I think it's important to put this issue forward in its own thread here.

    Q: Could Wang's foot injury and subsequent arm problems be related?

    A: Of course they could.  He was rushed back into action after badly hurting his foot on a fielding play.  You ever try throwing a baseball as hard as you can while your foot is throbbing?  It screws with your delivery and you end up with a sore arm.  I've done it, and it's not fun.

    Q: So does that mean you think his off-year in 2009 was due to injury?

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  • POTD Matt Holliday

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    That deaf dumb n blind kid...That deaf dumb n blind kid...He's a pinball wizard

    There has to be a twist

    A pinball wizard's got

    Such a suuuuuuupple wri-i-ist

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    === The Question is Moot Dept. ===

    Take out a #2 pencil kiddies.  It's multiple choice, pass-fail.  We haven't POTD'ed Matt Holliday because:

    1.  The M's aren't playas for marquee FA's

    2.  Matt Holliday can't hit in the AL

    3.  Scott Boras is his agent

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  • Pinball Wizards I

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    That deaf dumb n blind kid...That deaf dumb n blind kid... In this article, we mentioned the subject of good wrists in the context of hitting mechanics ...

    If there were two places you'd want to start, in judging a hitter's ability to adapt to new pitchers, they would be (1) EYE ratio and (2) wrists.  That is the front end and back end of reaction at the plate.

    Let's put on the Elton John glam eyeshades and check a couple of M's through this lens:

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  • Pinball Wizards II

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    That deaf dumb n blind kid...That deaf dumb n blind kid...

    === Beltre ===

    We mentioned in the Holliday article that Beltre uses the anti-wrists "golfer's triangle."

    He insists on swinging for the fences, so obviously has to commit very early on the pitch.   Hence the fishing for pitches that break outside the zone.

    Beltre is worth 10, 15 runs over Lopez with the glove.  Fly me to the moon.  That's wonderful, but doesn't Lopez' hitting talent count, either?

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  • What's News

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    U can t touch thisU can t touch thisA Red Sox writer states that three other teams are into Bay right now, alongside his own Sox.  He bases this on "a source familiar with the negotiations."  That's Bay's agent, in writer-speak.  Apparently, news of the death of the M's interest in Bay has been overstated.

    Red Sox - pole position, though also supposedly hot on Holliday

    Mariners - jemanji is hopin'

    Angels - Sending signals that they have other priorities, but would be ok with a bargain

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  • POTD Mike Cameron, Park-n-Rec Dept.

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    Looks like .350 standin stillLooks like .350 standin stillQ.  Doc, thoughts on Mike Cameron for LF next year?

    A.  He's a 1-year value Civic who will give you $10-12m worth in LF, for $5-6m worth of salary, as Jose Lopez does.

    You want to pay for a net profit on a Civic, short term?  That is a philosophical choice against your options of (say) scrub Saunders and star Bay.

    Do you plan to win your next pennant with Mike Cameron?  If so, I guess you're planning on winning the pennant in 2010.  I like the attitude.  ;- )

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  • POTD Mike Cameron, Age-Arc Dept.

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    Looks like .350 standin stillLooks like .350 standin stillQ.  In the Gospel According to SSI, how much gas does Cammy have left in the tank?

    A.   We sat down ready to write at the age of 36 -- turning 37 next year -- Cameron had not yet shown even the onset of senility.  

    That's because his OPS+ has been 111 and 111 consecutively, the last two years -- even a bit higher than his career 107.  Beautiful! 

    His EYE ratio is steady as a rock too.  He is most definitely a fast-twitch guy with the physique, in principle, to play late into his 30's.

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  • Harden to the stRangers ?

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    You shoulda seen the other guyYou shoulda seen the other guyWord right now is, 1 x $7.5m, with another year at $11.5m option, presumably a vest?  If it's purely Texas' option, then the market was awfullllly soft for Harden... 1 x $7.5 plus 1 x $11.5 club -- that is worse, for Harden, than 1 x $7.5.

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    === REL is a skill, too ===

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  • Dollar per WAR model broken? Um, no

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    Here y go Mr HardenHere y go Mr HardenCool Papa directed us to Tango's response to complaints that the $/run (WAR) model might be broken.  I did scan Tango's initial response, though not the comments yet.

    ...............

    Re: Tango's having to address protests that the model is "broken" -- it seems a lot of people don't get what the model is.  A person who asks whether the model might be broken, definitely does not understand the model, because it can't be broken.

    That's okay.  Here are a few things we need understand and $-per-run and inflation:

    .................

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  • Average and Correct are Not Synonyms

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    Here y go Mr HardenHere y go Mr Harden

    There is one thing genuinely broken, about the way Fangraphs information is deployed. 

    "Theo Epstein 'overpaid' for Joe Shlabotnik:  he paid $12m per year and Shlabotnik's performance is worth only $10m.  I see him drinking Diet Coke a lot.  I'll bet he hasn't heard that aspartame lowers IQ."

    WRONG! 

    Teams paid, on average, $10m for performance like Shlabotnik's.  Any leap towards "$10m is 'correct' and holds true, at all points in time" is a clear logical fallacy.

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  • Yankees Never Silent...Make Blockbuster Trade

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    This just in, all the talk of the Yankees not being in a rush to make moves has turned out to be a fib.  At least if the deal being discussed around the web is made official.  They've finally plugged the gaping maw that was screwing up their whole outfield defense - CF.

    The Particulars of the Trade

    For the Yankees:

    • Curtis Granderson (CF) IN
    • Ian Kennedy (SP)
    • Phil Coke (RP)
    • Austin Jackson (CF) OUT

    For the Diamondbacks:

    • Edwin Jackson (SP)
    • Ian Kennedy (SP) IN
    • Max Scherzer (SP)
    • Daniel Schlereth (RP) OUT

    For the Tigers:

    • Austin Jackson (CF)
    • Phil Coke (RP)
    • Max Scherzer (SP)
    • Daniel Schlereth (RP) IN
    • Edwin Jackson (SP)
    • Curtis Granderson (CF) OUT

    Yowza!

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  • The value of 10 runs in the free agent market

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    Offering to Senor SilvaOffering to Senor SilvaFast question, for Cool Papa, Taro, or those who follow Tango's comments threads...

    Have Tango ($4.5/WAR) and Lichtmann ($5.1/WAR) suggested that they're going to re-value 1.0 WAR?  By how much?

    .............

    John Benson CPA calculates the worth of production by simply taking all available dollars and dividing by bases/runs available in the free agent pool.  I'm sure that Tango and Lichtmann do something similar -- free agent dollars spent by MLB in a given year, divided by runs created,* or something within that general paradigm.

    ...............

    Can this ratio really have changed so much since 2007? 

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  • Too High a Cust Associated

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    The Bakery is a veritable $1.99 buffet of pastries and pies this morning.  If any other blog had a fraction of this "hard" information, we'd be awestricken ...

    Hit em there Dept.Hit em there Dept..

    === Sittin' By the Doc on the Bay ===

    As San-man aptly put it :- )

    Doc has been waiting on pins and needles for the seismo that the M's were still in on Jason Bay, despite the Figgins signing.  And here is Geoffy, confirming exactly that.

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  • Jason Bay - this 'n that

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    320 / 400 / 600 in there somewhere ?320 / 400 / 600 in there somewhere ?No idea whether the M's are still considering another impact bat.  Like we say, we've got doggy ears perked up, hoping for any whisper to that effect :- )

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    === Hurt Me ===

    M-Pops points out that Jason Bay has some spectacular numbers against high-priced Yankee pitching...

    Those are some nice numbers against tough pitchers.   I wonder what he was against Sabathia... ok, 1-for-6 in 2009.

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  • Felix and Randy Johnson

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    No big lossNo big lossQ.  Was it justifiable, at the time, the Mariners letting Randy Johnson go?  After all, who knew he'd become a freak, start winning Cy Young awards and pitch till he was 45?

    A.  I'm not sure that I follow you guys, offsite, about Randy Johnson getting good after he left?

    His record was 43-6 his last three years in Seattle. (Is it okay to mention wins and losses?)

    He was 75-20 his last five years. His ERA+ was 190 his last three years; in 1995 he was 18-2, 2.48 with 297 strikeouts and 64 walks.

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  • Tilting at Kings

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    Sure, we ll go Washburn moneySure, we ll go Washburn moneyRosenthal tells us that the M's have made Felix an offer:  4/$45m.

    IF true, where did we get this information?  Almost certainly, Felix' agent, or his operative, leaked it.

    And why would he do that?  It's to his advantage to call foul on the M's.  He wants to rally support for his side.  He wants the fans and media pressuring the M's. 

    It's the same thing, on a smaller scale, that unions do when they feel that management is lowballing them.  They can't go to court -- they take it public.  Power to the People, dude.

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  • Jason Bay Update

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    320 / 400 / 600 in there somewhere ?320 / 400 / 600 in there somewhere ?Matt tips us off that Geoff Baker tosses out an enigmatic Twitter, seeming to claim that Jason Bay would love to play for the Mariners.

    Since the Figgins coup, I've been doggy-ears-up, harking for the gentlest whisper that the M's are still in on another big hitter.  Who knows, but...

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    === Figgins vs Bay ===

    The Figgins PLUS Bay rumors still have some traction...

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  • Playas

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    Jason Stark points out that last winter, the Yankees committed a total of $441M in free agent dollars ... compared to $176 million for every other American League team put together!

    Stealth target ;)Stealth target ;)So it is by a wonderful alignment of the planets that these things came together:

    1) The Yankees are the-winter-after, therefore unusually absent

    2) The Mariners have $50m off the books and have their Big Cash Winter

    3) Jack Zduriencik has his first established winter at the helm, and is eager to do a Chuck Knox Instant 2-12 to 12-2 Turnaround

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  • Lackey and Harden

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    C mon feebleminds, I m greatC mon feebleminds, I m great=== Angels Seen Wandering Drunk On I-5 ===

    Jason at Prospect Insider says that the Mariners are "adamant" about signing either John Lackey or Rich Harden.

    In free-agent parlance, that would mean that the M's have made strong offers to both, and it's a question of which one responds first -- if either do, of course.

    Jack Wilson said, on the radio, that the M's landed him because their first offer was very close to what he thought he'd get in free agency anyway.

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  • Cruisin'

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    White knuckle timeWhite knuckle time=== Figgins on Monday? ===

    MLBtraderumors.com says that the Figgins deal will be signed Monday -- because that's Beltre's deadline for accepting arbitration.

    We hold one of these two truths to be self-evident:

    (1) The light bulb that Jack Zduriencik had on, that we in cyber-Seattle did not, was that he was much closer to the situation and knew that the chance of Beltre accepting was nil, -OR-

    (2) That is wayyyyyyyyy too much of a gamble in order to gain one draft pick. 

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  • Echoes, Chone Figgins - I

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    Chone on crazy diamondChone on crazy diamondSet out trying to convince myself that Jack might be right about Figgins -- if he lands Figgins, of course -- and whattaya know, the more I look, the more I see an argument for.

    With Zduriencik right now, I'm kind of in the mode I'm in when sitting across from a grandmaster.  I suggest this and that and there, sure I'm right.  He chuckles and shakes his head no.  I think whoooops, okay, what did I miss.

    Granted this post is a bit in that spirit.  Call me fickle.  I've got respect for the light bulbs that Zduriencik has on.

    Where might they be?

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  • Echoes, Chone Figgins - II

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    Chone on crazy diamondChone on crazy diamond

     === I don't know what this has to do with anything, but I thought I'd bring it up Dept. ===

    I watched a TV broadcast years-ago, in which three satellite feeds were on the screen -- one with Bill James' talking head, one with Kenny Lofton's, one with the sportswriter's.

    James had the task of educating the writer in three minutes.  The guy asked James, "Why is Kenny Lofton the best leadoff hitter in the game?  Why not Craig Biggio?"

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  • Jason Bay Thread

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    Back leg special, MikeyBack leg special, MikeyPOTD comin' Spec... sure enjoy the badminton matches you bring to the table bro'... this rat cheer is not a POTD, but if you want to mosh off the below, I'll be interested to see whatcha'll got :- )

    Jason Bay is extremely similar to (a faster) Jay Buhner, offering a steady .500 SLG along with a gorgeous .380 OBP, as well as the 80-90 walks and 150 K's ... it is no accident that GM's are on him like bums on a baloney sandwich...

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  • POTD Rich Harden - Stuff

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    You shoulda seen the other guyYou shoulda seen the other guyQ.  Are 125-150 innings of Rich Harden worth more than, say, 200 innings of Jarrod Washburn?

    A.  Of course they are, if you could get 125-150 innings of Harden, in form.  But you might want to be clear about the fact that this is the best case scenario.

    Granted, he's thrown 140+ the last couple of years.  Those were career years, healthwise.

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    Q.  Is he really that good?

    A.  Harden is simply death on a stick when he's feeling good. 

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  • POTD Rich Harden - Risk-Reward

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    You shoulda seen the other guyYou shoulda seen the other guy

     Q.  So what's the saber assessment of him?

    A.  What's to saber?   When the guy's on the field, he's awesome.  He and six or eight other guys, Halladay, Felix, Greinke, they overmatch their opponents.

    Some years one's a shade the better, some years a shade the worse.  They're all Cy Young starters.  We're not using instruments fine enough to discern which one's better.  It doesn't matter much.

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  • POTD Rich Harden - 2010 Prospectus

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    You shoulda seen the other guyYou shoulda seen the other guy

    Q.  Is there a solution for Harden's chronic health issues?

    A.  Harden's attempting a solution: he throws just two pitches now.

    He uses an overhand rising fastball, a straight change, and he has STRICTLY junked his other pitches in a desperate attempt to put together a career.

    2009 was the first year that Harden went out there throwing a 1-finger, a 2-finger and nothing else, ever.  

    If you're an optimist, you could hope that this is the magic sparkle dust.

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  • Edgar's Heroism and the HOF

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    I guess my post a few weeks ago on Edgar Martinez and the Hall of Fame made me into a bit of an activist on his candidacy’s behalf, because I’ve gone to the trouble of assembling a lengthy post elsewhere gathering up trivia, anecdotes, and select highlights from his career, with the aim of showing Edgar to be more than just a compiler of impressive hitting statistics. The core of what I found was Edgar impressively playing through two on-field incidents in September 1997 that left him literally in stitches. Here, taken from the post, is that story. I don’t know if this will convince anyone to vote for Edgar, but it’s a heroic tale and should at least help erase the notion that DHs lack the fortitude to play the field as well as hit.  

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  • Morrow for Jackson

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    ..Much rejoicing in the M's blog-o-sphere about Capt Jack nixing a (reportedly) firm offer of Edwin Jackson for Brandon Morrow and a young middle reliever.

    Nobody seems very clear as to what that says about Brandon Morrow.   Let's clear it up. 

    It resolves the debate about whether Brandon Morrow is a marquee talent, because Morrow and Jackson are apples-to-apples.  In fact, they're Red Delicious apples to Red Delicious apples. 

    2-year rental or not, Edwin Jackson offers a huge net performance profit for 2010 and 11.  Zduriencik didn't want it.  The comp is so clean that there is no escaping the implication.

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  • Coming and Going

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    ... coming and going, er, Checking In Checking Out, being a category that Bill James has run when surveying decades in baseball.

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    === Mega Mariner ===

    As far as I can tell, this brand spankin' new site has been up for less than a month.

    I like the "Around Baseball" style post in which Mega M's briefs yer on the news of the day and then tags out with its own reaction.   I think this kind of post is underdone ... after all, it's the bread-and-butter device used by sites like MLBtraderumors.com to kick their sites up to Borg-level domination.

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  • Marco Scutaro and Extreme Plate Discipline

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    Walk off, babehWalk off, babehIf I had my way, Matt Tuiasosopo would play 3B in 2010 and the dollars would go to Lackey and offense.

    Moving on:  suppose the Mariners do reel in Marco Scutaro, and Tui becomes a super-sub 4th infielder, getting 250 AB's and consolidating his talent for a year or two?  What then?

    Fangraphs -- actually, Dave Allen -- has a couple of outstanding articles up, demonstrating the insightful projection on Marco Scutaro is for him to hit better, rather than worse.

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  • Offer Beltre Arbitration? - I

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    A very fine Fangraphs article here that argues, strictly in terms of ROI dollars gained and lost, that the Mariners would be a little better off to offer Beltre arbitration than not.

    ..  === Exec Sum ===

    The argument reads:

    1.  If Beltre accepts arbitration, he'd get $10-13m, but might be worth only $8-12m on the field.  That's a net profit value loss of "something like $4 million."   In other words, you figure on overpaying him by about $4m if he accepts arbitration.

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  • ... offer Beltre Arbitration? - II

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    Hit It Here Dept.Hit It Here Dept.

    === John Benson Dept. ===

    Benson, a CPA, started running the $4.5m / WAR type calculations in the 1980's, but he always emphasized a key principle:  "don't estimate inflation.  Calculate it."

    What he meant is, if your specific keeper-roto league had 100 wins in the winter FA pool and $1 billion* to spend, then FA wins that year were not worth $4.5m.  That year, each win was worth $10m.

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  • Game Theory and the FA Market

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    WSOPWSOPReally, I think Sandy has the best low risk approach to building a team.  Find out which prospects shake out in the wash and only after that process fill the confirmed holes with veterans.  If you do it in reverse you might find you've blocked or traded the wrong prospect.

    Lower risk it is indeed, in the sense of avoiding extremely visible blunders...

    The question is whether the problem is simple enough, to allow us to use one principle to the exclusion of the other ones.

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    === Ceteris Peribus ===

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