January 2009

  • Huskies take one on the chin against Wildcats

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    The Huskies finally fell back to earth with a painful loss to the Arizona Wildcats, 106-97, in Tucson on Thursday night. After an impressive run of 6 wins in 7 Pac-10 contests—with the sole loss a triple overtime thriller against Cal—the Huskies conceded a road loss to one of the historically best teams in the country.

    Arizona down but still dangerous

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  • The Rumor

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    From Prospect Insider:

    I received a tip today from a friend of the site about a potential payroll-moving trade by Jack Zduriencik, and in following up on it, there might be something to it - or at least there may have been at some point.

    What I dug up/have been told is that the M's are working on a trade that would rid themselves of either Jarrod Washburn, Miguel Batista, or even Carlos Silva to an AL Central team.

    But Brandon Morrow and either Wladimir Balentien or Jeff Clement - or both - might have to be part of the trade, at least as far as I can gather.

    Returning would be a young corner outfielder with solid defensive skills and one strong offensive season under his belt, and minor league prospects - at least one pitcher.

    Normally, you wouldn't criticize based on a rumor.  But does ANYbody feel that this trade would be uncharacterically illogical for the home nine?

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  • Chemistry 101 - the Branyan Kapler Durham Counsell Maneuver

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    Q.  Put me in the camp with Sandy about being ambivalent about the trade. Don’t like losing Heilman but like having pressure on the middle infielders to perform, which Z has explicitly stated was his intent.

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  • POTD Mike Sweeney

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    Sweeney was, from about 1998 to 2005, the Royals' version of Edgar Martinez.   He'd hit .320 with lots of walks, a .400-ish OBP, forty doubles and 25 homers.  He's also an awesome human being by all accounts. 

    He was the quintessential Barking Spider for many years -- a small-market, underrated roto commodity who gave Mikey Jay as much production as the hyped guys drafted far ahead of him.

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    Sweeney's last good year was when he was 31 -- and he's 35 now.  Could there be anything left for him?

    The problem has really been his back. 

    For three years in a row, Sweeney has hit for zero power, and that ain't good for a big 1B who's there to drive in runs.  He's hit 17 homers total, in a good fraction of three years, and you're talking about an extreme fly ball hitter here.  He's a flyball guy who had first warning track power, and who now has mid-outfield power.

    Mike's RC/27 used to be 8.0 - 9.0 .... then it went down to a Swisher-ish 6.0 or so ... now it has been down to 4.0, 4.2.  His Power Index (PX) has gone from 120-130 to .... um ....

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  • POTD Garrett Olson

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    DISCLAIMER DEPT.  I liked Olson coming out of AAA and worked hard to get him onto my roto teams.  I'm hardly biased against the lad. 

    And his life is hardly over, after a couple of bad trips around the league.

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    Justin, who lives in Baltimore, won the ESPN All-Star league this year.  He was one of the original 1995 STATS AOL brat pack that dominated local cyberspace during its first couple of eons.  :- )

    We ax,

    “What was the problem with Olson translating his K/BB’s to the major leagues? Did they chase him out of the strike zone?”

    Justin sez,

    Olson’s got no command of his changeup, so he’s basically a two-pitch pitcher with a high-80’s fastball but a killer slurve. There were a few games where he was absolutely hammered.

    The one thing I will say is he profiles as an overachiever. He was on the O’s pregame show many times discussing different deliveries he’s working on and comparable star pitchers with great enthusiasm. He apparently also has been noted for a strong work ethic.

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  • The Spin on Heilman

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    Q:  Seems to me that the disconnect between you and the rest of the blog-o-sphere is NOT the valuation of Cedeno, but instead the valuation of Heilman.

    A1.  Agreed.  And the trade's fine if Aaron Heilman is a bit part, thrown in on the "Franklin Gutierrez" trade.

    This is definitely the way that the Mariners themselves spin it:  that they traded J.J. Putz for Franklin Gutierrez, plus a hodgepodge of interesting parts that suit Capt Jack's philosophy.  If you ask the Mariners, they'll certainly tell you that Heilman was simply not that important to them -- ergo, there's no sense caring one way or the other what they got for Heilman.

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    A2.  Once again, I approve of the idea of bringing in "my kind of players" in an effort to perform a heart transplant in the clubhouse.  Though players like Endy Chavez, Chris Shelton, Ronny Cedeno, by themselves are fringe players ...

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  • Pay Me Now, or Pay Me Later

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    Larry Walker hit .170/.264/.170 in his first year, at 22, in 47 AB's.  (Adam Jones has 54 AB's now.)  His MLB arc looked like this:

    22 - Pathetic

    23 - Average

    24 - Above Average

    25 - Star

     

    Miguel Tejada at 21 hit .202/.240/.333.

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  • Winning a Weird Position

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    The 12-year-old girl in pink, Hou Yifan, is a Grandmaster-level chessplayer.  She goes toe-to-toe, against scarier, tougher players, with the heart of Rocky Balboa.  She has courage, and fighting spirit, that many MLB players (much less us 'net rats) could never dream of.

    So does Sanja Dedijer (below).

     

     

    A lot of our baseball chats, including mine, go:  "If only we'd signed Teixeira.  Or Matsuzaka.  Or been born in Bangladesh where we could focus on finding a banana peel for breakfast, and not on this compost pile of a team."

    Pull a chess analogy for a change:  Even this 92-lb.

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  • ML Fringe is the new Impact Player

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    I've heard of Navy Is the New Black, but this is getting a bit bizarro :- )

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    Q. So you like the idea of Cedeno and Olson for Aaron Heilman? Is Ronny Cedeno a good idea?

    A. With the term "fringe ML player" we are describing a hard-working AAA player of limited talent, who does play better than most AAA players, who has no reasonable possibility to be a significant player for ANY of the 30 major league teams.

    Cedeno is one more fringe ML player, like Endy Chavez and Craig Counsell, who has cyber-Seattle enthused because the only thing he can do is field.

    Cedeno's career OPS+ is 62, which some amigos believe has caused him to be underrated with the bat. Ho-kay. ... it's true that Cedeno is "only" 26, but he is never going to hit HR, is not stealing bases, and is never going to draw walks.

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  • Closer Candidates - Power Rankings

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    Jemanji's 2009 Power Rankings for the Seattle closer role :- )

    1.  Josh Fields - best choice to close.  Spend da money
    2.  Tyler Walker - could give you a Bob Wickman season or two
    3.  David Aardsma - no way to tell until ST
    4.  Mark Lowe - becoming worrisome; am pessimistic
    5.  Roy Corcoran - should be on some ML team, just not this one
    6.  Miguel Batista - in lieu of funny-but-cruel remark, we'll just say:  BPV = -40; Age = 38

    1a.  Aaron Heilman - should start.  You can't teach "gifted" - and his 3rd pitch is ready now

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    Jason at Prospect Insider gives you his $0.03, based on an interesting scouts'-eye view of which pitcher has the "stuff" most suited to the role.

    I don't have anything against "stuff," obviously.

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  • Skip-O-Vision Translations

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    Mainframe readouts, kibitzing, and shtick on various quotes from The Fearless Leaders:

    Capt Jack:

    I would never want to do something that would mis-represent what we are trying to accomplish. We want this organization to move forward. We owe it to the fans, the people who are putting their heart and soul every single night into this club. It's important our players understand that....

    What we need to do here is get this club healthy. That's very, very important. We need to get players to buy into playing at least to their level of ability. There were players here who under-achieved, no question about that. I'm trying to send a message any way I can to come to spring training ready to compete.

    There IS such a thing as a pro sports front office that gets across the message that excellence is expected.

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  • Waka-San on Leadership

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    From Geoff Baker's blog, Waka-san says

    "We talked about several things. One is trying to really focus on teaching from the neck up, trying to play the game intelligently. Try to educate the players on their own abilities and weaknesses. Try to get them to understand how to play the game the right way. It's a cliche, but try to get more in depth in that.

    "I think lot of players today are expedited to some point to big leagues, not spending as much time in the minor leagues. We want to continue to educate at the major league level. As a staff we want to invest in a player -- try to get to know a player, and understand how he thinks."

    Wakamatsu talks about leadership incessantly. I approve of this. He has said that, whatever industry you're in, it's about getting people to give you their best. I believe this fervently.

    Different people judge managers differently. Mike Hargrove himself would tell you that he's about making out the correct lineup card, and showing respect to the people who've earned it. Me?

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  • Wakamatsu's Bullpen

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    "I prefer set roles. We'll have to see." - Don Wakamatsu, asked about the 2009 Mariners' bullpen

    It is one thing to talk about set roles when your relievers are (1) Daimajin, (2) Jeff Nelson slinging righty frisbees, and (3) Arthur Rhodes, throwing 97 mph lefthanded. Each reliever is Bespoke custom-tailored to the shoulders of the given situation you're in.

    It's another thing to talk about set roles when you have 18 different average-solid, unpredictable righthand pitchers. Why would you "prefer set roles" when the relievers are obviously not measured-and-fit to ANY game situation, much less to any given template game situation?

    Dr. Naka has pointed out, many times, that the Mariners hurt themselves by using "by-the-book," cliched, responses to basic "first-and-third, 1 out, righty up" game situations. He has thundered effectively from the pulpit that a 21st-century ballclub looks at player-specific data for its in-game situations.

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  • Huskies defeat Trojans for third straight Pac-10 victory

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    Following a trend they’ve established in recent weeks, the Huskies turned a game that was close in the first half into a comfortable victory on Thursday night; this time, the victims were the USC Trojans, by the score of 78-73.

    Victory earned at the line

    This was a game that was won at the free throw line, pure and simple. The starting backcourt of Justin Dentmon and Isaiah Thomas alone almost doubled the entire Trojan output from the stripe, 25-13; overall, the Huskies shot an astounding 23 more foul shots than the Trojans and put them in at an 80 percent clip, making 32 out of 40 attempts. Dentmon was especially impressive, making all 11 of his free throws as he and Thomas took the ball to the hole at will. Thomas had a tough time early, missing five of his first nine shots; but with the chance to ice the game, he came up clutch and drained this last three free throws in the waning seconds.

    Brockman's shooting woes don't hurt Dawgs

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  • Huskies Use Strong Second Half to Blow Out Beavers

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    The Huskies completed a Pac-10 conference road sweep of the Oregon schools with an 85-59 route of Oregon State in Corvallis on Saturday. After trailing by as many as seven points in the first half, the Huskies continued the second half dominance they showed against Oregon on Thursday, outscoring the Beavers by 15 in the first 10 minutes of the half and never leading by less than 19 from then on. Combined with the Cal Bears and UCLA Bruins first conference losses of the season, the Huskies pulled into a three-way tie at the top of the Pac-10 standings, at 4-1 in conference play.

    Brockman keys dominant rebounding effort

    John Brockman continued his stellar play, scoring 19 to lead five Dawgs in double figures. He also pulled down 9 rebounds, leading to an almost unbelievable 44-13 team rebounding advantage. No Beaver pulled down more than three boards.

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  • NFL Fans Feel the Pain of "The Hidden Stomach Punch"

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    When watching the conference championship games this weekend, keep an eye out for a phenomenon that I like to call the "secret stomach punch" (thanks to ESPN Sports Guy Bill Simmons for the inspiration for the name). This phenomenon occurs when a broadcast announcer makes a seemingly innocuous reference to a performance by one of the players in the game they're announcing, but in fact it's a random punch to the gut to some unsuspecting fans watching the contest.

    Vikings first to feel the blow

    Case in point; this last weekend, during the Eagles-Giants game, it was revealed that Eagles kicker David Akers had made a certain number of playoff field goals in a row, one away from breaking the record set by Gary Anderson, long time kicker for the Minnesota Vikings. No big deal, right? But there's a hidden fact in that statement that caused every Vikings fan watching to want to shove a toothpick under their fingernails.

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  • Huskies Bounce Back Against Ducks

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    The University of Washington Huskies men's basketball team bounced back on Thursday from a heartbreaking triple-overtime loss at the hands of the Cal Bears with a sound defeat of their bitter Pac-10 rival Oregon Ducks, 84-67. Although the Ducks are having a down year after losing their top two scorers and top rebounder from last season, they always get up for the Huskies; aside from their respective Pac-10 in-state rivals (Washington State and Oregon State), the Dawgs and the Ducks are the most intense rivalry for both teams. The fact that the Huskies won on the road in Eugene makes the victory even more significant.

    Huskies Put Game Away in Second Half

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  • Huskies Take Tough Loss to Bears

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    The University of Washington men's basketball team has been on quite a roll lately. Heading into their Saturday home match-up with the Bears of UC Berkeley, the Huskies had won nine games in a row, including their first two Pac-10 conference games. They were winning with swarming defense and great rebounding, lead by senior John Brockman, second in the conference in rebounding at over 10 per game.

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  • Around the Horn

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    RHP Overload: Bleeding Blue & Teal points out that the M's have about 14-to-make-5 in the bullpen.  Their take is to expect some wheelin' and dealin'.

    D-O-V crunch: As mentioned in the Aardsma POTD, it is one thing to bring eight Entitled Vets in, and another thing to bring in eight Serious Talents With Something to Prove.

    You're giving yourself a real shot at hearing good news, from some angle or other, come March 20th.  The pundits might say, "Who could have predicted Tyler Walker to become Bob Wickman?" or "When did Aardsma learn to land on his toe instead of his heel?", but the point is, you're buying tickets that have nice numbers on them.

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    BB&T also links us to Clement's defiant "I'm a catcher" thing.  Which again reminds us of Craig Wright's HBT article on the young Piazza.

    Again we remind that (1) catchers have knee surgeries, such as Alomar Jr's 10 of them, and (2) the fact that picturesque technical defense is far over-talked by good buddies who, after all, are paid to go watch it.

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  • POTD David Aardsma

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    Q. Is Aardsma a special talent? Is the idea that you can't teach 9K a game, so you'll go to work on it?

    A. If you want guys whose pitches are hard to see, but who haven't put it together yet, there are a lot of them around. If you want a feel for it, go to THT stats, and filter by K/G unqualified.

    That said, Aardsma does go through stretches in which he blows away 23 guys in 13 innings, stuff like that. Aardsma can be scary.

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    Q. What are the chances that this would be 2009 in which he jells?

    A. We remember a quote from Bill James on Randy Johnson, ca. 1991: "He probably will figure it out at some point. Predicting it for some particular time, such as right now, for example, is a fool's errand." Or somesuch.

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    Q. So you've got an odds-against shot at a quality reliever, and he's hurt.

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  • Saturday Morning Skinny Latte

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    Ken Griffey Jr. can apparently spend the season in Safeco for about $3-4m on a 1-year deal. As John Fay points out, he's getting a $4m buyout for 2009, and his deferred payments of $5m/year begin. So Junior will score $12-13m this year, even if playing for chickenfeed.

    Griffey still rakes RHP, and in Safeco his effectiveness is amplified as opposed to whatever (high) effectiveness he'd have in another park. The Cincy park favors all hitters, but Safeco favors lefty HR hitters particularly. It's one thing to say that Junior played in a hitter's park.

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  • State of the Felix

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    Bleeding Blue & Teal predicts a long, healthy career for Felix. We once talked with Bill James about Roger Clemens and he said, "It all depends on the pitcher. I think 250 innings a year for Roger Clemens is fine."

    The moral imperatives around 120 pitches and 200 innings are too dogmatic. If Felix feels good at 225-250 innings, let him go.

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    BBT's post links to Driveline Mechanics, who talks about the "balance point." Pitching coaches talk about "finding a balance point" and DM takes the other side. What is aiki-doc's take?

    In golf, what happens is that golfers take the club back and then, because of a slightly shrill attitude about the swing, begin the start back down too quickly -- before they have "loaded" their hips-shoulder tension. They use an IMAGINARY "pause at the top" idea to get themselves better loaded, and accelerating more smoothly.

    It is also the case that a golfer should be able to pause at the top and be on balance.

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  • Average Salaries Aren't CORRECT Salaries, Kiddies

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    Here's Dr. D's analysis at LA Sports Insider. I'm going to take over the country :- )

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    I guess I'm still drawing a blank here, because even at 2.0 - 2.5 WAR levels ... achieved by very run-of-the-mill players ... Dunn earns $10-12m per year at $4.8m per win. At $5.5m per win, it's $11-13.75m.

    Dunn's request of $14m x 4 ... after you NPV that, it's $11.9m in Net Present Value. How is it ludicrous, absurd, delusional, etc., for a guy worth $10-13m to start his first offer at $11.9m?

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    Dunn is worth about $14m x 4 even if he's a 2 - 2.5 WAR player.

    But! How much is Dunn worth if you use different assumptions?

    If you use -12 for his defense, rather than -23 (and many metrics had him as average-solid in 2008), how does that change his value? By many, many millions.

    If you put him in a park favorable to him personally?

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  • Around the Horn

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    BBT notes that Johjima has an opt-out after this year. I didn't know that. I also can't imagine why he'd want to stay here and be miserable.

    It would complicate trade talks, since Johjima would have to waive it for other teams to be interested. I realize that Seattle has a rancid taste in its mouth here, but starting catchers are hard to find. And teams know that 2008 was an unrepresentative train wreck, just as they know that about Nick Swisher's and Erik Bedard's 2008s.

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    Also at Bleeding Blue and Teal, Scott slides hard into second base on Adam Dunn's request for 4 x $14M.

    I agree that this could be the end of M's fans hopes for Dunn.

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  • POTD Stephen Strasburg

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    We have some material up on His Sheer Borassian Awesomeness.

    It's at DC Sports Insider, being as the Nationals have the #1 pick.

    Dr. D's shtick, as if anybody cares, will probably be bouncing around on half-a-dozen Klat sports sites -- 80% on SSI and PB, 20% on a variety of city-specific sites.  They'll be linked in the sidebar for ya.

    Rock on,

    Jeff

  • Around the Horn - Tuesday PM

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    USSM recaps the flavor of the Blengino & Co. event.

    First thing that DMZ talks about, was his impression that this regime is one that encourages active debate -- one that doesn't view dissenting views as stupid, but views alternative views as simply another take on the problem. DMZ raves about the open-mindedness that not only tolerates, but actually rewards, dissension.

    They want to hear ping-pong exchanges coming from different angles.

    This is the way most MLB teams do business, and frankly, Bavasi doesn't get enough credit for doing it also. But the fact that Zduriencik and Blengino are so extreme about the respect-for-different-views paradigm, is wonderful.

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    This is the test of a man who earnest seeks truth: he seeks to test his theories, against the strongest opposition possible. The Mariners want to get it right. They want to get it right, much more than they want to be perceived as right.

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  • Monday Morning Macchiato

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    Jason at Prospect Insider opines that Adam Dunn could send the M's $95m "salary cap" flying, if he offered to hit those 400-footers at Safeco.

    He's right, of course. Padna and I have been pointing out, for many years now, that the Mariners float a budget in the press with the goal of "managing expectations." They don't want the fans to get their hopes up for an Adam Dunn, then receive a Nick Swisher, and deflate like a balloon.

    Why the Mariners should care so much about the February blogging on their payroll has always been beyond me. Like Earl said, "Nobody cares in April whether you won a game in March." By April 12th, nobody's going to care what the M's payroll is or isn't.

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    Still, what this does do, is line us fans up to hope that the FA's start begging to play in Seattle.

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  • So, 101 losses were Mat's fault?

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    Heh!

    Geoff Baker reveals that before the 101-loss 2008 season, Chuck Armstrong directed Bill Bavasi and Mat Olkin to give an objective assessment of the Mariners' chances to make the playoffs. Olkin, obviously aware of the M's Pythagorean overperformance in 2007, nevertheless offered the analysis that the 2007 M's were capable of winning.

    Geoff characterizes it as Olkin-Bavasi analysis, but you know what that means.

    If you're thinking that Mat Olkin takes a back seat as an analyst to Bill James, Ron Shandler, Tom Tango, Gary Huckabay or anybody else, you're mistaken. He has been on the cutting edge of sabermetrics since, I don't know, 1985 or something. For those amigos who judge by education, Mat has a law degree from Georgetown. We've known him off-and-on since about 1995. Mat is as brainy as it gets.

    Olkin of course cannot discuss his work, which when compensated by the Mariners, is proprietary to the Mariners. But Chuck leaked the information that Olkin's analysis led to their mistaken attempt to win the pennant in 2008 -- so blame Mat.

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  • POTD Jon Papelbon

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    Before the 2006 season, serious reports had the Red Sox offering the Mariners their choice of Jon Lester or Jon Papelbon for Jeremy Reed.  An interesting debate took place as to whether Papelbon and Lester were "Red Sox Nation hype jobs," or whether they were special commodities.

    Papelbon, going into 2006, was coming off a 34-IP major league debut in which he fanned 34 men in 34 innings and ran a 171 ERA+.   D-O-V recommended buy; the rest of Seattle recommended to steer clear.

    After the M's passed on the opportunity, Papelbon went on to become the best closer in the American League, entering "Vintage Eck Territory" with ERA+s of 515, 256, and 198.  The riverdances are no extra charge.

    Last year's Papelbon line:  69ip, 77k, 8bb, 4hr.   His CAREER ERA is 1+.  In Fenway.

    From the archives, here was the D-O-V rationale at the time:

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    Q: Are Lester and Papelbon special or aren't they? What's different about them?

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  • POTD Jon Lester

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    Here again was D-O-V's April 2006 rationale on going ahead with a Jeremy Reed for Jon Lester trade.

    To be fair, after Lester's cancer occurred, it certainly looked at that time like it was a deal you'd best avoided.  Since then, however, he has come back to become one of the finest SP's in the American League, never mind one of the finest cheap pitchers.

    In 2008, Lester went 16-6, 3.21 (144 ERA+) -- as a lefthanded pitcher in Fenway park.  He fanned 152 men and walked only 66.  And how does a lefthand pitcher give up 14 homers in 210 innings in Fenway?

    Jon Lester delivered this Warren Spahn performance for $421,000.

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    The evaluation in spring 2006:

    Q: Does Jon Lester have a plus curve or does he not?

    A: Here's a prime example of the silly stuff that scouts throw at us.  Cyber-Seattle argued:

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  • Sign Bedard Now, or in June?

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    At Mariner Central, the early returns were 91% in favor of signing Erik Bedard while it's such a buyer's market.

    Several amigos didn't vote, though, wanting another poll option, that being this:

    "Wait till he's into the season, throwing great, only three months from free agency, and then chisel him. That way we'll be able to underpay him, and he'll be grateful that we did."

    I kid.

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    === Six of One, Half-a-Dozen of the Other ===

    But there's a reason we didn't put that one up. If you are I were Erik Bedard, and we were in that position -- leading the league in ERA* on June 15th, and ONLY THEN do the Mariners decide they want me -- would YOU give a hometown discount?

    No, you wouldn't, and you're not a red-ears of the magnitude of Erik Bedard.

    Check me if I'm wrong: wasn't that what Bedard did with the O's?

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  • Erikkkkkkkk By the Numbers

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    One of Bill James' most fundamental teachings, beginning in the 1980's, was this:

    Evaluate pitchers by what they have done over a number of years, not by what they did last year.

    Our visceral reaction -- our gut feeling -- about Erik Bedard's 2008 disappointment runs so deep that it's almost impossible to be objective about how good this pitcher is. Emotions and hormones run high. Cyber-Seattle is in PMS on Erik Bedard.

    Come to your senses, Padowan, and consider Steve Carlton's 1972 and 1973:

    1972 - 27-10, 1.97 ERA, 182 ERA+ ..... 310/87 control, only 17 HR

    1973 - 13-20, 3.90 ERA, 97 ERA+ ... 223/113 control, 29 HR

    The SI cover at right, of course, was during Opening Week following Carlton's incredible 27-win season. Carlton was lousy that very next year.*

    *In the sense that Bedard was 'lousy' last year.

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  • More Erikkkkk by the Numbers

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    Billy Martin or Casey Stengel or Alex Rodriguez or somebody once said, the secret to managing is keeping the 5 guys who hate you away from the 5 who are undecided…

    In case some normally-well-balanced D-O-V amigos are beginning to fret that maybe acquiring a great pitcher is a reason to swear off the local ballclub? Dial 1-800-DOVTHERAPY. This thread and this thread contain some reminders of what Opening Day starters cost in trade value.

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    Houston gave two legit blue-chip prospects — the 1998 equivalent of Morrow and Adam Jones and Tony Butler — for 11 starts of Randy Johnson.

    Chicago gave the 2004 equivalent of Adam Jones, Yuniesky Betancourt and a throwin … for Freddy Garcia. (Freddy wasn't quite Steve Carlton.)

    Boston gave Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez and a ton more for Josh Beckett. Cry me a river about Hanley being great: Boston used Josh Beckett to win a week's worth of very important games.

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    etc. The goal in baseball isn't to stockpile resources high enough to fill the acorn silo, kiddies.

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  • SABRMatt's Big Idea on Defense

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    Here are SABRMatt's evaluations of Wins Above Replacement for 2004 Center Fielders, compared to those typically found on a site like Hardball Times':

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  • The Steve Carlton Family of Pitchers

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    Bill James wrote that the largest group of top-100 starters alltime came from the "Blow-em-Away-Lefties" group… he meant high-K lefties with lastingly vicious stuff.

    Going from memory here, so check me.  I think he had, in no particular order:

    1.  Lefty Grove

    2.  Randy Johnson

    3.  Steve Carlton

    4.  Sandy Koufax

    5.  Vida Blue

    6.  Rube Waddell (pictured below)

    7.  Hippo Vaughn

    8.  Hal Newhouser

    He wrote, IIRC, that "secondary characteristics" included a tendency to develop late, notably by Unit and Koufax.   ….Bedard also took a few years to make an impact, as opposed to a Tim Hudson or Barry Zito or Cole Hamels, which is why Bedard's reputation hasn't caught up to his ability.

    He also wrote that many of these guys were terrible fielders ….

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  • Shout Out - Bleeding Blue & Teal

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    One of my favorite Mariners sites is Jon Shields' Bleeding Blue & Teal.

    Jon writes in a likeable, easy, fluid manner and puts his own signature on his view of the M's world. He draws from both sabr and visual literacy to go his own way and present a distinctive take on current Blue & Teal events. This article on Orlando Cabrera is a typically fresh read.

    Jon & Rob T.'s Big Idea is that one-year contractors give the M's a net gain owing to the M's high drafting -- they give up 2nd-rounders, but gain supplemental 1st-rounders, when renting Type A free agents.

    I don't know about you, but this kind of draft profiteering is a resource tactic that hadn't occurred to me. Admittedly, I'm not all that interested in MLB processes and procedures beyond the active 25-man roster. This draft-profiteering would be a routine consideration for GM's and for those very interested in their tactical considerations, but I'm pretty bored by that stuff and so appreciate BBT using one-syllable words I can understand.

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  • POTD Nick Swisher

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    Q: Buy or Sell?

    A: No Sale.

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    Q. Because he's too pricey, or because you just don't want him?

    A. Although I like Three True Outcomes players in general, and like lefty bats more than I should, Nick Swisher is simply overrated. Check his RC/27's:

    2004 - 5.0 part-time

    2005 - 4.9

    2006 - 6.4

    2007 - 6.2

    2008 - 4.5

    Career - 5.6

    Care to go look at Adam Dunn's again? Swisher had one big year, producing 35 homers and a 6.4 RC/27.

    Even Griffey, in his late 30's, has been arguably out-hitting Swisher, and that's before applying the platoon concession that we've talked about. (And note that we're talking about Griff as a 1- or 2-year Scrub, not as a Star to supposedly build around.)

    As "dynamic young Moneyball star," Swisher is a lot more P.R. than production.

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    Q. Is it really that bad?

    A. Yeah.

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  • Cut-and-Thrust on Swisher

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    Q. Postscript: did you see that cyber-Seattle wants him?

    A. LOL. I hadn't read the 'net before we wrote this, except for a couple of posts where MFan and somebody were arguing about his party personality.

    I kid you not, it never. ceases. to. amaze. me. How different guys can look at the same painting and see two completely different things.

    Swisher has been a 4.5 - 6.4 run a game corner player, getting it done in the TTO flavor. That's all. Take away the Moneyball aura and Swisher is one of about a zillion guys who can give you 5.5, 6.0 runs at first base.

    Except here you're not bringing him in as a Branyan-type value Scrub for those 5.5, 6.0 runs at 1B; you're making him a pillar of the franchise? No sale.

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    Q.  Is there a strong case to be made for Swisher?

    A. Sure.  And Matty makes it:

    *sigh*

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  • I'm Goin' off the Raaaailllllls on a Crazy Traaaaiiiiin

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    Since cyber-Seattle is an open office floor, and the cubicles have 4-foot walls, we'll give a friendly response to a "Griffey Post" aimed at refuting the idea that Jr. would make any sense in Seattle for 1-2 years. For more detailed rationale, see our 5-part series on it.

    Ken Griffey Jr. would be best put to use as part of a platoon.

    Almost certainly yes. While the guy could hit southpaws at his peak, over the past five years (in hitter-friendly environments) he's hit .291/.380/.536 against righties and .227/.304/.428 against lefties. With his abilities eroding, it's gotten to the point at which, when facing a lefty, Griffey turns into a pretty easy out. There's no reason for anyone to promise him a full-time role.

    This was actually placed 3rd in a long bullet list of "refutations" of pro-Junior reasoning.

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  • Junior as Hot Potato

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    Again, in the spirit of college debate, and since the New Zduriencik/Blengino Era inspires us all to comradely disagreement ... :- )

    Thusly:

    Ken Griffey Jr.'s 2008 season was destroyed by a knee injury.

    It's possible, of course - there's no way for us to prove anything either way - but it's worth pointing out that Griffey hit just .248/.342/.416 in April, before he got hurt, and .249/.356/.427 the rest of the way with a comparable home run rate. There's no evidence that the bad knee was responsible for his bad season aside from the agent claiming it was, and what else would an agent say? ...

    The evidence is, that Griffey did in fact have a very sore back knee. He had it drained three times during the season, and then rushed to the hospital for surgery immediately after the season ended.

    For more 'evidence' that an infected knee can be responsible for less-effective hitting, go to the softball cage and see how far you can hit with your back foot up on its toe.

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  • POTD Tyler Walker

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    Q: Who IS this guy?

    A: If you want a frame of reference, think of a right-handed George Sherrill. Am not saying he's a mirror image, but it's a good way to organize your thinking. If GS52 went Shirley McLaine on us and came back as a right-handed bouncing baby from India, he'd move to the US and become Tyler Walker.

    Walker is a big guy, like GS52. He short-arms the ball from behind his ear. He pitches with a high front side.

    Walker has a good crisp fastball -- probably 2 mph faster than Sherrill's, which makes it equivalent, since lefties' FB's look 2 mph faster. Walker also brings a plus slider. He mixes the two very nicely, depending on plus deception to get late reactions from hitters. (Batters rely on subliminal clues to read the spin of the ball. You tell me if batters can read Walker's grip from the position in which he's holding it in the picture.)

    Walker's FB-slider whipsaw works, pretty much.

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  • The Backup Closer Position

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    Q. How does Tyler Walker fit into the current bullpen?

    A. Personally, I *do* think that this club could use one bona fide Fireman to bind the motley crue together out there. I'd have loved to have seen one real bullpen ace brought in -- an Arthur Rhodes, Paul Shuey type, if not a closer.

    Objectively speaking, Walker is a lateral step away from what the M's already have. They had average-solid (not impact) short men; they added an average-solid (not impact) short man.

    But he's Capt. Jack's man, a reliever JACK trusts, as opposed to a reliever that John McLaren trusted. The M's had average-solid short guys who had no street cred; now they have an average-solid short guy with street cred.

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    Q. Can he close?

    A. This is the real key to the signing, IMHO.

    Sure he can close. He's done it, and evidently prefers to do it. There are a whale of a lot of guys who don't.

    Pitchers do get injured, and the fact is that Tyler Walker is comfortable closing ballgames. In the real world, GM's have to look at that.

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  • Tuesday Morning Tripleshot

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    === One Tennis Match We Won't Miss, Dept. ===

    Lots of pleasant buzz around Capt. Jack's reference to the M's discussions with a free-agent "piece of the puzzle."

    Nobody seems to have mentioned that the "puzzle" in question is necessarily the 2009 pennant race. In context, all things considered, the comment has little meaning with respect to a 2011 target. One thing we love about Capt. Jack, is that he's got us all calmed down about whether it's okay to try to win now.

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    === The LOOGY "Piece" ? ===

    Which piece of the puzzle? Larry LaRue suggests, relief pitcher, and from what I read at MC, LaRue rules out Griffey or Dunn (in this case).

    If you're doing a puzzle that involves baseball wins, are we ever going to look for the piece that says "#3 hitter" or "#4 hitter" on it?

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  • Da Bakery Is Open

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    Lonnie's 10 Questions gig is rockin' the joint at Mariner Central. Now he even gets Baker in there, and Geoffy writes a complete blog entry to each question. :- ) Vot's Next? Dr. Zoinks his ownself?

    Dr. D cherry-picks a target-rich environment:

    Q1. Which is worse, Carlos Silva for 4 years at $48 mil or Kenji Johjima for 3 years at $24 mil?

    A. Without a doubt, it's Kenji Johjima's deal.

    The logic of Geoff's reply seems to focus on, which move was more brain-dead? Which was an easier mistake to see coming? Which was dumber? .... as opposed to, Which hurt the ballclub more?

    On its own terms, I'll buy the idea that Silva might have contributed, and that Johjima's peanut-butter-and-mustard blend with the pitchers was an obvious boil on the skin of the roster.

    From my own paradigm of Stars & Scrubs, the Silva-Batista-Washburn outlay of $30M is, like, the worst Civics-for-comfort-zone's sake I can EVER remember in baseball.

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  • Bakery, 9.30 am

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    Q3. I continuously beat the drum about the need for a real on-field team leader. Who do you think has a chance of assuming this mantle?

    A. Jose Lopez, too, is someone I feel could be a natural leader. More of a strong, silent type like Beltre. Lopez is still seen as somewhat of the baby of the bunch, but I think, once some older players clear out, he'll be viewed differently. He changed a lot, maturity-wise, this year. Really grew up and learned what it takes to be a major league ballplayer. He looks and acts like a major leaguer now, not like a kid in a uniform.

    This is interesting to hear, isn't it?

    Jose's game-in, game-out concentration, then, produced that .294/.327/.487 second half that would read just fine in a Miguel Tejada statline. Prorated, Jose's 2H produced 27 HR and 95 RBI per 155 games.

    He's got the AB's in now, he's turning 25, and he's learning when to turn on it with loft and when to line it the other way. Looks like time to buy. 2009 should be the year in which Jose drives in 100 runs.

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    From a leadership standpoint, Jose's got some serious game when it comes to facing down challenges.

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  • Bakery, 11.00 am

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    Q5. There will be some turnover of players over the course of the next few years, but there will remain a core who will remember the issues that they had with Ichiro. Is it in the teams best interest to move Ichiro and perhaps remove a potential thorn from their side?

    I think that, within a year, most of the players who have had the biggest issues with Ichiro will be gone. [Washburn & Co. - Dr D]

    I do think there will still be players who take issue with how he plays the game, unless he becomes more open to them and explains why he does the things he does. No one takes issue with his work habits. It's that some of them perceive that he doesn't play the game the right way. That he sacrifices team goals for numbers and there is a huge difference in these two things.

    Also known as "Tony Gwynn disease."

    Gwynn's teammates always accused him of caring about his base hits and not about the club -- "We lose and he gets three hits, he's chatting up the clubhouse.

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  • Dunn AND Griffey Plan

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    Just for fun, from the Jumanji-fied word of the Jen-Man :- )

    === Do-ability Dept. ===

    This is as do-able as acquiring Dunn by itself is. In terms of acquiring both players, that is, with roster configuration problemos aside. If you win the bidding for Dunn, there's no big reason you can't talk ownership into popping for a year or two of Griffey. Chuck Armstrong would go to bat on that one, we know that much.

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    === Crunching the Numbers Dept. ===

    vs RHP, about 75%-80% of games:

    Batting order ... RC/27 ... Player, Pos (RC/27 rationale)

    1 ... 6.2 .... Ichiro, rf (career RC/27 = 6.6; 2008 = 5.6 in depressing year)

    2 ... 5.0 ... Lopez, 2b (4.9 = 2008; 5.3 = 2H)

    3 ... 7.0 ... Griffey, lf (8.0 = 3-yr vs RHP; 5.2 = 2008 overall; 6.6 = 2007 overall; 6.6 = 2008 vs RHP)

    4 ... 7.8 ...

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  • Ken Griffey Jr. Update

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    See this article, the first of five, for an SSI series on Griffey.  - Dr D

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    Q.  Do you see the Heyman report as 'intel,' or as a reporter trying to put 2 + 2 together?

    A. At Mariner Central, Crusty Juggler linked us up to Jon Heyman's report that the Mariners are one of five teams with "some level of interest" in Griffey.

    I take it fairly seriously, since:

    1.  Heyman expressly quotes Brian Goldberg and represents the intel as news.  You don't figure that Heyman is simply lying about this.

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  • Mike Piazza and Craig Wright

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    Q. Who is Craig Wright?

    A. Wright is a sabermetrician who has been employed by MLB franchises, including the Mariners, for >20 years.

    Wright goes back far enough that he was fighting for Mike Piazza's advancement through the Dodger minor leagues, and Wright was one of the driving forces that pushed the Dodgers past the "tipping point" to actually give the unorthodox young Piazza a shot behind the plate.

    In the 2009 Hardball Times Annual, Wright publishes a lengthy account of his debates with Fred Claire (Dodger GM at the time) on Piazza. You can order the HBT book here.

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  • Mike Piazza and Jeff Clement

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    Q. And Wright's battle with the Dodgers, over Mike Piazza, means ... WHAT to me?

    A. Reading through the lengthy, detailed article, you're absolutely stunned by the parallels to Jeff Clement. You could virtually stick Clement's name in there, for 70% of the occurrences of Piazza's name, and it would apply word-for-word.

    Wright's analysis underlines the point that there is way, WAYYY too much bias against catchers who don't look pretty behind the plate.

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    Q. But you gotta have a catcher. Or else you'll have a lot of passed balls, right?

    A. One light bulb that Wright turned on for me, is that it might actually be a plus, in the long run, for a catcher to not be physically gifted!

    Guys like Piazza and Clement face skepticism not just in the minors, but their Entire. Careers. In many cases this keeps them working on their skills -- and often this is the type of catcher that the pitchers like to throw to.

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  • Felix' Heater

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    Another outstanding article at LL, which demonstrates again that Felix has much better results with offspeed pitches than with his fastball. In this one, Matthew discusses the tendency Felix developed to see his FB locate to the inside on RH hitters, or away from LH.

    My own interpretation on this would be that he was starting to get back some of his tailing action, the "run" that caused the problemos with his Pronator Teres earlier on. But in any case, we would agree with Matthew that Felix showed some tendency to move towards the right half of the plate in 2008.

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    We will modestly remind you that D-O-V, back in April-May 2006, started yelling loud-and-long that ML hitters were sitting absolutely dead-red on Felix.

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  • Felix' Pronator Teres and FB Movement

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    In early 2006, Felix decimated the Red Sox with an incredible swerving fastball that tailed away from LH hitters about a foot or so. This movement was produced by a screwball-type pitching motion in which Felix snapped his hand over the ball, leaving the thumb pointing at the ground.

    The Red Sox were helpless. And we will cheerfully admit that, if Felix could throw that particular fastball, then all of these other conversations would be over. It doesn't matter if you're sitting on a 97 mph pitch that moves like a slider.

    Cindy and I ran down and bought tickets in the Mezzanine, $60 apiece, to watch Felix' coronation as the best pitcher in baseball.

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  • Pronator Teres - Prognosis on Felix

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    === Dr's Prescription Dept. ===

    Obviously Felix could tire out his Pronator Teres again -- IF he started snapping them off to produce the tailing action he got in early 2007.

    Matthew's charts at LL suggest, to me, that he was getting a little more of this tailing action in 2008. Obviously, if Felix could find a happy medium here -- if he could find a way to snap his hand over the ball at release that did not over-fatigue his forearm -- that would fix everything.

    The Mariners, and we, would love to see Felix "finish" his fastballs as in early 2007, yet without over-taxing the forearm.

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    Earlier, we were asked: If Dr. D were the M's pitching coach, what would be the pronator "fix" alternatives, and which one would he recommend?

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    Possible ways to achieve this goal:

    Q1. Change his release at the end? If you teach him to not turn his FB over the top so much, it might not provide so much load on his PT muscle. Snap it off, but not quite so far. Felix was pumped up for the Boston game. He got carried away.

    Try the same thing with a bit less gusto.

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  • Ought Nine - Keepin Da Faith

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    === Hope Makes a Good Breakfast, But A Poor Supper Dept. ===

    Dr. D's glass is half full, and he's not pouring it over the blog-o-sphere's head.  :- )  We're pleased to see that this winter, most sites seem less willing to give up on the M's in 2009, coming off 101 losses, than they were in 2008.

    My glass would be half empty if this were Pittsburgh or KC.  It ain't.  It's a city with a verrrrrrrrrry rich baseball team in residence.

    There aren’t enough impact free agent bats that would even consider coming to Seattle to fix this woefully bad offense. That’s the bottom line.

    Bottom line?  On a Dr. D blog?  That's about 24 column inches on, amigo…

    Could be that my 'can-do' attitude gets me hosed sometimes, in roto baseball, in raising teenagers and in building weblog subscriber bases.  That's kewl.  We don't want to see Lofa leave anything out there on the field.  Why should we :- )

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    === Gumption, Dept.

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  • 2009 - The M's Have Great Piece Mobility

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    Sandy has made the case against that: that, Atlanta-style, the M's should wait for their blue-chippers to actually show the goods, and then push all in the season following. That is a perfectly valid way to look at it, and I would even agree that the 2009 M's shouldn't push ALL in.

    But can they move towards the chance to win, if it doesn't capsize future years? Sure.

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    The claim has been that you couldn't acquire hitters even if you wanted to. That assertion is what I question.  Here are just a couple of examples.  This list can definitely be improved, since I offered the list in August.  The point is merely that there are always options.

    1. Farrrrrrrrr more impact MLB players are available, at any one time, than fans think there are. What holds up their movement is the price associated.

    2. Leaving the trade market out of it for a second*:

    a. Mark Teixeira was the guy we put first on the list. A one-man Safeco offense in Jason Giambi style. 28 years old. You give him Manny, even ARod money, and build around him.

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