December 2008

  • Adam Dunn's Rotten 2008 Luck

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    Now, don't get us wrong here: Big Donkey slugged .518 with 40 homers and 122 walks, creating 7.3 runs per 27 outs. I think most of the Mariners didn't.

    But those numbers were seriously deflated by the rolls of the dice.

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    === Paul McCartney 'With A Little Luu-uu-uuuck' Dept. ===

    And a little luck, we can clear it up
    We can bring it in for a landing,
    With a little luck, we can turn it on
    There can be no misunderstanding

    Neo-sabermetricians are concerned, in large part, with identifying players who have been "unlucky."

    If a saberdog ever took the helm, his job would be a piece of cake, right? He would (1) acquire all the players with unlucky BABIP's, H%'s for pitchers, HR/F rates, etc etc ... (2) scoop them all cheap ... and then (3) watch them "regress to the mean" the next year to (4) grab his easy pennant. Don't we s'pose?

    Well, then, shouldn't neo-sabes be suffering epileptic seizures over the fact that in 2008, Dunn hit 16 balls >400 feet that were not HR's? Read more

  • Mariners In On Dunn !?

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    === Get 'Er Dunn, Dept. ===

    From Tim Dierkes at MLB Trade Rumors, quoting Jayson Stark:

    1:46pm: According to ESPN's Jayson Stark, the Dodgers contacted Adam Dunn's agent over the holidays to express interest. If the Dodgers sign Dunn, Manny Ramirez could be in a really bad place. Other teams showing interest in Dunn: the Cubs, Nationals, Mariners, and Orioles. Read more

  • Have the M's been spending "Star" money?

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    Q. Jarrod Washburn and Richie Sexson were paid stars money. Neither move worked out very well for the Mariners.

    This city, over the last ten years, has conditioned us to call a signing a "big contract" in circumstances that are a little different from those that New York or Boston would call big contracts. :- )

    Sexson and Beltre were more towards what I’m talking about with “Star” money, but ... Jarrod Washburn? By the time Washburn signed, a 4-year deal for $10MM per was Civic money. The Mariners chose Washburn and Silva for $10MM to $12MM apiece, as opposed to choosing a Santana type and pairing him up with a Ryan Rowland-Smith to form a $20MM All-Star / Rookie combo.

    Washburn, Silva and Batista became the epitome of choosing NOT to sign stars like Mussina, Schilling, DiceK and Sabathia.

    When I’m talking about giving Star money to a core group of 4-5 players, I’m, like, talking about guys who make the All-Star team. It’s a good rule of thumb. :- )

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    === Let's Isolate the Variable Dept. ===

    Richie Sexson, BTW, had two very productive seasons for the Mariners. Read more

  • Grab Bag

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    Q: Was Ichiro worth $17M in 2008, given a reasonable estimate on his defensive play?

    A. This is one of the most fun Seattle debates -- Ichiro's value. As Phred put it at Mariner Central:

    Taro: Adjust Ichiro's defensive value to a more realistic level and hes a $17+mil player even in '08.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Phred: no it won't, and no he isn't a 17 million dollar player no matter what [baloney] stats are twisted to say

    Most fans have lives and aren't experts in sabr stats. Most of these fans have trouble believing that any players are worth $15 or $20M per year. Who can blame them?

    Ask any fan at Safeco, and most fans on the internet, if Mark Teixeira is worth $22M a year and he'll scoff. Read more

  • Defensive evaluations get worse and worse all the time

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    ... because we're placing more confidence in the metrics all the time. And that isn't justified.

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    Q. Do Fangraphs' new dollar values make us smarter or dumber?

    A. Sandy-Raleigh has an info-taining take on it at Mariner Central. We had pointed out, last week, that the new values are based in huge part on the defensive portion of the evaluations -- for example, we noted Mark Teixeira went from $16M in 2007 to $30M last year, mostly because he learned to play 1B last year. :- )

    Instantly recognizing the import, Sandy jumped into the fray with more convincing examples. Usually we edit down to just a couple sentences, but we couldn't leave any of the following Sandy-sagacity out:

    To ME, Beltre is the guy that calls the entire system into question. His RC/27 for the three years in question, along with his dollar worth:

    Year - RC -- $$$ - OPS+
    2006 - 5.1 - 17.8 - 105
    2007 - 5.2 - 10.9 - 112
    2008 - 5.2 - 18.3 - 109

    .... Read more

  • Saturday Morning Single-Shot

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    === What If Something Happened and Randy Couldn't Pitch At That Level Any More? ===

    Famous last words, Royal Brougham ca. 1998. As high as the reward was -- the sight of one of baseball's best and most fascinating pitchers ever, blossoming and prospering right here in Seattle -- that must have been some risk with that 3-year contract. :- )

    "I still expect him to be pitching effectively in ten years" -- Bill James, outrageously, in 1995.

    As he aged from 40 to 44, Randy Johnson had FIPS (fielding-neutral ERA's) the last 5 years of:

    2.18

    3.77

    4.37

    3.08

    3.73

    We'd be happy if Morrow ran those, the next five years. Randy is doing it in his 40's. Do you know what it feels like to be 42? Most guys are done at 32.

    Amusing to note that you could literally have given Johnson a 12-year contract in 1998. "You don't think I'll hold up? Read more

  • Can Griffey Make an Impact at Age 39?

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    This is the overview, one of five articles. The sabermetric data is in the other four articles:

    Age Comps Against

    Age Comps For

    Age-38 Splits

    Value and Junior

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    Q. Can I have the exec summary?

    A. You shore kan. How about in the picture at right? :- )

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    Q: Could he make a difference in 2009?

    A. Yes, he could. Read more

  • Junior's Age Comps at 39 - the Case Against

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    Q. How much does he have left in the tank?

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  • Junior's Age Comps at age 39 - The Case For

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    The following three players have been: (1) Junior's natural :- ) comps since about 1992, and (2) guys who were verrrrrrry capable of playing baseball at age 39.

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    Frank Robinson played 50 games, just over 100+ AB's, and had one of his best lines in this tiny amount of play: .237/.385/.508 with a 153 OPS+ and a 2:1 eye (in 1975). 1975 was my favorite baseball year as a boy, but I don't remember whether Robbie was hurt or what. Here is the '75 Indians team, which had the DH. Two good OF's, a great DH, and one mediocre developmental OF in front of Robbie.

    Robinson's eye ratio strongly indicates that he'd have hit very well in full-time play.

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    The Say Hey Kid hit .291/.390/.506 with a 139 OPS+ at age 39 -- in full-time play. He was 8th in the NL in offensive winning percentage, a Bill James stat.

    At 40, Willie led the entire NL in OBP at .425 and drew votes for MVP. He started in CF for the All-Star team both seasons. He was not using steroids.

    At 41, Willie was also an excellent player in part-time action. Read more

  • Griffey's Splits at Age 39

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    If you consider Aaron, Mays, Robinson, and Bonds to be Junior's "birthright" comps ... you find out, wow.  Those guys were great at 39, and real good at 40.

    But as we all know, Griff has had problemos in his 30's.  Where is he at right now?

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    Q.  Can he stay healthy any more?

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